<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>In my small school, the PD (or should we more properly say PL) budget is around $300 per head for the year, and now there is regional pressure coming from the RNLs that PL be delivered in school rather than outsourced. The VITTA VET half day has already cost $160, and then there's the conference. Doesn't leave much I'm afraid.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br></div><div>Chris Ellis</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On 31/03/2009, at 9:19 AM, Kent Beveridge wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div> <div id="idOWAReplyText62816" dir="ltr"> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2">Hi Kevork, and VITTA</font></div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2">if I may, permit me to respectfully, make an observation on behalf of rural staff and as a PLN leader for Wimmera. </font></div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2">Up front, I have no idea just who is involved, how many people, hours or similar it has taken to prepare your course but...to the layman(ie me, and similar)...</font></div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2">Even if just 10 people participate at approx $600 per head that's $6000. </font></div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2">Now, up here (in the bush) the PD I just ran cost $33 a head (admitted some of that was sponsored) and we had the school provide, at no cost, the venue.</font></div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2">You've got to admit - these do raise some questions...</font></div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2">Additionally, the costs to get from a rural site to the city plus, potential accomodation etc costs..</font></div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2">So, you can understand my concerns and please, this is not a negative comment, just an observation.</font></div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2">Kent.</font></div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2"></font> </div></div> <div id="idSignature6779" dir="ltr"> <div><font face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 42.55pt"><i><span lang="EN-AU" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><strong>Kent Beveridge</strong>,</font></font></span></i></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 42.55pt"><i><span lang="EN-AU" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#0000ff" size="2">I.C.T. co-ordinator</font></span></i></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 42.55pt"><i><span lang="EN-AU" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#0000ff" size="2">St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College</font></span></i></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 42.55pt"><span lang="EN-AU" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><em> </em></font><a href="http://www.stbc.vic.edu.au/"><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><em>http://www.stbc.vic.edu.au/</em></font></a></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 42.55pt"><i><span lang="EN-AU" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#0000ff"><font size="2">Horsham <span lang="EN-AU" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#0000ff"><em>Ph (03) 5382 3545</em></font></span></font></font></span></i></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 42.55pt"><i><span lang="EN-AU" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><a href="mailto:kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au">kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au</a></font></span></i></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 42.55pt"><i><span lang="EN-AU" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#ff00ff"></font></span></i></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 42.55pt"><i><span lang="EN-AU" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#800080">“This email and any attachments may be confidential.<span> </span>You must not disclose or use the information in this email if you are not the intended recipient.<span> </span>If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately and delete the email and all copies.<span> </span>The School does not guarantee that this email is virus or error free.<span> </span>The attached files are provided and my only be used on the basis that the user assumes all responsibility for any loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from the use of the attached files, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not.<span> </span>The content and opinions in this email are not necessarily those of the School.”</font></span></i></div></font></div></div> <div dir="ltr"><br> <hr tabindex="-1"> <font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au">moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> on behalf of Kevork Krozian<br><b>Sent:</b> Mon 3/30/2009 3:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:moodle@edulists.com.au">moodle@edulists.com.au</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Moodle] PHP/MySQL & Action Script Courses<br></font><br></div> <div><p><font size="2">Hi Folks,<br><br> Thanks for your feedback. Obviously VITTA would love to know what teachers think. And I take the liberty to reply on their behalf.<br><br>These are activities that VITTA has to budget, pay rent, staff and allocate time to provide a service. At the end of the day VITTA does not make much of a profit and if these sessions run at a loss as they often do, if there aren't enough people attending.<br><br>Normally this course runs for 5 sessions each of 2 hours so teachers can do homework in between sessions rather than have the whole lot in one block of 9 or 10 hours.<br>In that sense this was an effort on VITTA's behalf to try to bring this course to our rural and regional teachers with minimal disruption. <br><br>Teachers receive the following:<br> 1. A textbook which is a full course.<br> 2. An installation DVD with ubuntu and utilities to set up your own MySQL and Apache server<br> 3. Hands on practice installing your own Ubuntu MySQL /Apache server<br> 4. 13 Learning Activities each of several pages carefully illustrated written for teaching gently with a set of exercises at the end of each learning activity<br> 5. A set of 12 assessment tasks for use with mobile devices up to desktops on multiple operating systems, from Yr 8 to Yr 12 standard including Software Development<br> 6. Relational database design and implementation theory and practice<br> 7. Two table and three table relational database practical tasks using MySQL and PHP.<br><br>Furthermore, whenever I have provided this type of PD there has been ongoing support for many months with emails to me , phone calls and other requests for help. This is an extra demand on time and expertise willingly provided that is unpaid and unquantified.<br><br>I am not sure what will work for others and that is a decision for each school.For the record I did deliver the same PD last year to a group of TAFE teachers for a day who did get a lot out of it - this being TAFE teachers who teach certificate and diploma courses.<br><br>Over to you Kent and Mark ....... :))<br><br>Take care<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Kevork Krozian<br>IT Manager , Forest Hill College<br><a href="mailto:k.krozian@fhc.vic.edu.au">k.krozian@fhc.vic.edu.au</a><br><a href="http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au/">http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au</a><br>Mobile: 0419 356 034<br><br>Kevork Krozian<br>IT Manager , Forest Hill College<br>k.krozian@fhc.vic.edu.au<br><a href="http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au/">http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au</a><br>Mobile: 0419 356 034<br><br>>>> "Mark Sampson" <sampson.mark.m@edumail.vic.gov.au> 30/03/2009 11:24 am >>><br>I'd have to agree.... I would luv the course as would our techo but the boss<br>baulked at the price<br><br><br><br>Mark Sampson<br><br>Curriculum Coordinator<br><br>Mansfield Secondary College<br><br>View Street Mansfield 3722<br><br>Phone 03 5775 2022<br><br>Home 03 5776 2226<br><br>mobile 0407059986<br><br>email sampson.mark.m@edumail.vic.gov.au<br><br><br><br><br><br>From: moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au [<a href="mailto:moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]<br>On Behalf Of Kent Beveridge<br>Sent: Monday, 30 March 2009 9:16 AM<br>To: The Moodle Users' in Schools Mailing List<br>Subject: RE: [Moodle] PHP/MySQL & Action Script Courses<br><br><br><br>Was about to book for the day...but then saw the price!<br><br><br><br>One day for HOW MUCH??<br><br><br><br>Sorry, way tooooo much! Strictly for rich people with lots of budget!<br><br><br><br>Kent.<br><br><br><br>Kent Beveridge,<br><br>I.C.T. co-ordinator\<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College<br><br> <<a href="http://www.stbc.vic.edu.au/">http://www.stbc.vic.edu.au/</a>> <a href="http://www.stbc.vic.edu.au/">http://www.stbc.vic.edu.au/</a><br><br>Horsham Ph (03) 5382 3545<br><br>kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au<br><br>"This email and any attachments may be confidential. You must not disclose<br>or use the information in this email if you are not the intended recipient.<br>If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately and<br>delete the email and all copies. The School does not guarantee that this<br>email is virus or error free. The attached files are provided and my only<br>be used on the basis that the user assumes all responsibility for any loss,<br>damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from the use of the<br>attached files, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not. The<br>content and opinions in this email are not necessarily those of the School."<br><br><br><br> _____<br><br>From: moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Mark Richardson<br>Sent: Mon 3/30/2009 5:25 AM<br>To: Yr7-10it@edulists.com.au; vet-mm@edulists.com.au;<br>moodle@edulists.com.au; php@edulist; vet-it@edulists.com.au;<br>offtopic@edulists.com.au; vitta-news@edulists.com.au; vels@edulists.com.au;<br>eLearning; sofdev@edulists.com.au; yr11it@edulists.com.au;<br>edugames@edulists.com.au; itapps@edulists.com.au<br>Cc: Mark Richardson<br>Subject: [Moodle] PHP/MySQL & Action Script Courses<br><br>If interested please book at www.vitta.org.au/trainingevents<br><br>----------------------------------------<br><br><br><br>1. PHP and MySQL Holiday Program - Monday April 6th from 8:00a.m - 5:00<br>p.m [This is designed particularly for those in rural and region areas and<br>those who can't make the after school delivery of this module.<br><br><br><br>Session details<br><br><br><br>This is a one day version of Kevork's popular PHP and MySQL module. It is<br>designed for those who can't get to Forest Hill after school during the<br>term. It has been specifically designed particularly for teachers in rural<br>and regional areas.<br><br><br><br>Interested in PHP and MySQL? Here are the benefits:<br><br><br><br> * PHP is one of the approved programming languages in Software<br>Development<br><br> * PHP combined with MySQL can be used for years 8 to 12 VCE & VET<br>teachers, including at Year 11 for Database Programming<br><br> * PHP can be used to program mobile devices<br><br><br><br><br><br>Included in the fees are copies of Kevorks new book "PHP and MySQL for<br>standard and mobile devices", software installation as well as sample<br>outcomes for teachers who are interested in delivering PHP and MySQL.<br><br><br><br> * Bring your laptop, morning tea and lunch provided<br><br><br><br>The sessions delivered by Kevork Krozian, an experienced teacher and<br>author.<br><br><br><br>The day is tailored to fit the beginner, intermediate or advanced person,<br>with notes and exercises ready for participants at any proficiency level.<br><br><br><br><br><br>Date: Monday April 6th from 8:00a.m - 5:00 p.m<br><br><br><br><br><br>Where:<br><br>Room S5 IT Department<br><br>Forest Hill College<br><br>178 - 180 Mahoneys Rd<br><br>Burwood East<br><br>Melways 62 C5<br><br><br><br><br><br>Fees<br><br>Fees include refreshments, resources, and are per person inclusive of GST.<br><br><br><br>VITTA Member: $ 540<br><br>Non-VITTA Member: $ 660<br><br><br><br>Cancellations<br><br>No refunds if less than 5 working days notice. Cancellations prior to this<br>incur a 25% cancellation fee. Cancellations must be made in writing to<br>pd@vitta.org.au<br><br><br><br>Confirmation & receipt<br><br>Upon registering you will receive a confirmation email, though spam blocking<br>can prevent this. Please bring this email with you to the event.<br><br><br><br><br><br>Privacy<br><br>VITTA has a privacy policy that endorses National Privacy Policy Principles<br>set out in the Privacy Act (Private Sector) ACT 2000. A copy of the policy<br>can be found on the VITTA website vitta.org.au or call 03 9495 6836.<br><br><br><br>PARKING<br><br>There will be sufficient parking at Forest Hill College. Continue up the<br>drive, and park in the bays on your left.<br><br><br><br><br><br>Contact<br><br>Mia Solomon<br><br>Project Officer Assistant<br><br>T: 9495 6836<br><br>F: 9495 6834<br><br>pd@vitta.org.au<br><br>vitta.org.au<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>=--------------------------------------<br><br><br><br>2. PHP and MySQL 5 Module Unit - starting Tuesday April 21st from<br>4.30-6.30pm<br><br><br><br>Interested in PHP and MySQL? Here are the benefits:<br><br><br><br> * PHP is one of the approved programming languages in Software<br>Development<br><br> * PHP combined with MySQL can be used for years 8 to 12 VCE & VET<br>teachers, including at Year 11 for Database Programming<br><br> * PHP can be used to program mobile devices<br><br><br><br><br><br>Included in the fees are copies of Kevorks new book "PHP and MySQL for<br>standard and mobile devices", software installation as well as sample<br>outcomes for teachers who are interested in delivering PHP and MySQL.<br><br><br><br>All sessions are delivered by Kevork Krozian, an experienced teacher and<br>author.<br><br><br><br>* Bring your laptop * Light refreshments provided<br><br><br><br>All 5 sessions are tailored to fit the beginner, intermediate or advanced<br>person, with notes and exercises ready for participants at any proficiency<br>level.!<br><br><br><br>Dates & times<br><br>5 module programme<br><br><br><br>Tuesdays<br><br>4.30-6.30pm<br><br><br><br>Term 2, 2009<br><br><br><br>April 21<br><br>April 28<br><br>May 5<br><br>May 12<br><br>May 19<br><br><br><br><br><br>Venue<br><br><br><br>Where:<br><br>Room S! 5 IT Department<br><br>Forest Hill College<br><br>178 - 180 Mahoneys Rd<br><br>Burwood East<br><br>Melways 62 C5<br><br><br><br>Fees<br><br>Fees include refreshments, resources, and are per person inclusive of GST.<br>These prices are for all 5 modules. No discounts for attendance at 4 modules<br>or less.<br><br><br><br>VITTA Member: $ 580<br><br>Non-VITTA Member: $ 700<br><br><br><br>Cancellations<br><br>No refunds if less than 5 working days notice. Cancellations prior to this<br>incur a 25% cancellation fee. Cancellations must be made in writing to<br>pd@vitta.org.au<br><br><br><br>Confirmation & receipt<br><br>Upon registering you will receive a confirmation email, though spam!<br>blocking can prevent this. Please bring thi! s email with you to the event.<br><br><br><br>Privacy<br><br>VITTA has a privacy policy that endorses National Privacy Policy Principles<br>set out in the Privacy Act (Private Sector) ACT 2000. A copy of the policy<br>can be found on the VITTA website vitta.org.au or call 03 9495 6836.<br><br><br><br>PARKING<br><br>There will be sufficient parking at Forest Hill College. Continue up the<br>drive, and park in the bays on your left.<br><br><br><br>Contact<br><br>Mia Solomon<br><br>Project Officer Assistant<br><br>T: 9495 6836<br><br>F: 9495 6834<br><br>pd@vitta.org.au<br><br>vitta.org.au<br><br><br><br><br><br>=-----------------------------------! ---<br><br>3. Session details<br><br><br><br>ActionScript 5 Module Unit - starting Tuesday April 21st from<br>4.30-6.30pm<br><br><br><br>Beginner's Actionscript 3 - programming from the grou! nd up leading to<br>games creation in Intermediate ActionS! cript 3.0<br><br><br><br>All sessions are delivered by Kevork Krozian, an experienced teacher and<br>author.<br><br><br><br>* Bring your laptop * Light refreshments provided<br><br><br><br>All 5 sessions are tailored to fit the beginner, intermediate or advanced<br>person, with notes and exercises ready for participants at any proficiency<br>level.<br><br><br><br>Dates & times<br><br>5 module programme<br><br><br><br>Tuesdays<br><br>4.30-6.30pm<br><br><br><br>Term 2, 2009<br><br><br><br>May 26<br><br>June 2<br><br>June 9<br><br>June 16<br><br>June 23<br><br><br><br>Venue<br><br><br><br>Where:<br><br>Room S5 IT Department<br><br>Forest Hill College<br><br>178 - 180 Mahoneys Rd<br><br>Burwood East<br><br>Melways 62 C5<br><br><br><br>Fees<br><br>Fees include refreshments, resources, and are per person inclusive of GST.<br>These prices are for all 5 modules. No discounts for attendance at 4 modules<br>or less.<br><br><br><br>VITTA Member: $ 570<br><br>Non-VITTA Member: $ 680<br><br><br><br>Cancellations<br><br>No refunds if less than 5 working days notice. Cancellations prior to this<br>incur a 25% cancellation fee. Cancellations must be made in writing to<br>pd@vitta.org.au<br><br><br><br>Confirmation & receipt<br><br>Upon registering you! will receive a confirmation email, though s! pam<br>blocking can prevent this. Please bring this email with you to the event.<br><br><br><br>Privacy<br><br>VITTA has a privacy policy that endorses National Privacy Policy Principles<br>set out in the Privacy Act (Private Sector) ACT 2000. A copy of the policy<br>can be found on the VITTA website vitta.org.au or call 03 9495 6836.<br><br><br><br>PARKING<br><br>There will be sufficient parking at Forest Hill College. 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