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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=206324202-23082007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I am working around this by moving all network files within
moodle and thus allowing staff and students dual access (direct network share
access at school for easy file location, paste etc) and moodle based read
only access at other times.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=206324202-23082007><FONT face=tahoma
size=2>====================================================<BR>Stephen Digby,
Learning Technology Manager<BR>mailto: <A
href="mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au">admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au</A>
<BR>Cheltenham Secondary College <A
href="http://www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au/">www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au</A><BR>Ph: 613
955 55 955 Fx: 9555 8617 Mb:
0431-701-028<BR>====================================================<BR>If Karl,
instead of writing a lot about capital, had made a lot of it ... it would have
been much better. Karl Marx's mother <BR></FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Roland
Gesthuizen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 23 August 2007 12:06 PM<BR><B>To:</B> The
Moodle Users' in Schools Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Moodle] Student
file storage and moodle<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>No, the Ajax implementation is just for moving items up and down within a
course. Sorry Stephen.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>To manage files you still need to create a zip file (even if organized
subdirectories) .. upload then unzip (into same subdirectories) to publish
files. I increasingly do this when I have a large enough collection of
resources, zipping the lot from my network home drive then uploading/ publishing
and creating a Moodle directory link rather than creating links to each and
every resource. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Regards Roland<BR> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 23/08/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Stephen
Digby</B> <<A
href="mailto:digby.stephen.p@edumail.vic.gov.au">digby.stephen.p@edumail.vic.gov.au</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>No.... I
mean can teachers drag and drop files into the file storage area etc.
?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=tahoma size=2><SPAN
class=q>====================================================<BR>Stephen Digby,
Learning Technology Manager<BR>mailto: <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au" target=_blank>
admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au</A> <BR>Cheltenham Secondary College <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au/"
target=_blank>www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au</A><BR>Ph: 613 955 55 955 Fx: 9555
8617 Mb: 0431-701-028
<BR>====================================================<BR></SPAN>Wickedness
is a myth invented by good people to account for the curious attraction of
others. Oscar Wilde <BR></FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=q><B>From:</B> <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target=_blank>moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au</A> [mailto: <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target=_blank>moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Roland
Gesthuizen<BR></SPAN><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 23 August 2007 9:58 AM
<DIV><SPAN class=e id=q_114902b70f4d9d9a_5><BR><B>To:</B> The Moodle Users' in
Schools Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Moodle] Student file storage and
moodle<BR></SPAN></DIV></FONT><BR> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=e id=q_114902b70f4d9d9a_7>
<DIV></DIV>Yes, I can drag and drop stuff around in courses to change its
position and order. Very cute. <BR><BR>Martin demonstrated it last year at the
VITTA conference. There are plans to implement even more Ajax stuff in the
roadmap for Moodle 2.0+<BR><BR>Regards Roland<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 22/08/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Stephen
Digby</B> <<A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:digby.stephen.p@edumail.vic.gov.au"
target=_blank>digby.stephen.p@edumail.vic.gov.au </A>> wrote: </SPAN>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>i notice
some ajax code in moodle.... can it use this functionality already
???</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=tahoma
size=2><SPAN>====================================================<BR>Stephen
Digby, Learning Technology Manager<BR>mailto: <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au" target=_blank>
admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au</A> <BR>Cheltenham Secondary College <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au/"
target=_blank>www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au</A><BR>Ph: 613 955 55 955 Fx:
9555 8617 Mb: 0431-701-028
<BR>====================================================<BR></SPAN>Human
beings are the only creatures on earth that allow their children to come
back home. Bill Cosby, Fatherhood, 1986 <BR></FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target=_blank>moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au</A> [mailto:<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au" target=_blank>
moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Roland
Gesthuizen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 22 August 2007 6:07
PM<SPAN><BR><B>To:</B> The Moodle Users' in Schools Mailing
List<BR></SPAN><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Moodle] Student file storage and moodle
<BR></FONT><BR> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>
<DIV></DIV>I quite agree, Ajax has done a lot to introduce drag and drop
effects onto the browser. <BR><BR>BTW, with Novell NetStorage .. .there is a
very cute workaround that lets users drag a file or collection of files
(even a folder) from the desktop, right onto a remote folder in a browser. I
must show it off to you one day. I used it during the commonwealth games to
remotely backup the uniform photographs that I was taking when somebody
nicked my USB key. One of those cute features that we didn't know was on our
Network until it was pointed out to me. <BR><BR>Regards Roland<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 22/08/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Stephen
Digby</B> <<A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:digby.stephen.p@edumail.vic.gov.au"
target=_blank>digby.stephen.p@edumail.vic.gov.au </A>> wrote: </SPAN>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Yep. Just
download the File Manager Block/module from moodle. Allows you
to set storage limits etc etc. <BR>Only problem (common major problem with
all web interfaces that hopefully will be fixed before I die, is that
stduents loose the<BR>ability to copy and paste files as they can in a
network share. They have to laboriously upload files or zips of
multiple files. <BR>This is one of THE major drawbacks of moodle and other
content management and course management systems.)<BR><BR><A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://docs.moodle.org/en/File_manager_block"
target=_blank>http://docs.moodle.org/en/File_manager_block
</A><BR><BR>====================================================<BR>Stephen
Digby, Learning Technology Manager<BR>mailto: <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au"
target=_blank>admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au</A><BR>Cheltenham Secondary
College <A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au/"
target=_blank>www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au</A><BR>Ph: 613 955 55
955 Fx: 9555 8617 Mb: 0431-701-028
<BR>====================================================<BR>The thing that
impresses me most about America is the way parents obey their
children. Edward, Duke of Windsor, Look, 5 March 1957
<BR><BR>-----Original Message----- <BR>From: <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target=_blank>moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au</A> [mailto:<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au" target=_blank>
moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>] On Behalf Of Daniel Stanley <BR>Sent:
Tuesday, 21 August 2007 3:08 PM<BR>To: The Moodle Users' in Schools
Mailing List<BR>Subject: [Moodle] Student file storage and
moodle<BR><BR>Hi all, <BR>Has anyone setup, or can suggest a means by
which students can store files within moodle without actually submitting
files as an <BR>assignment?<BR><BR>Thanks heaps,<BR><BR><BR>Daniel
Stanley<BR>IT Co-ordinator for<BR>Carrum Downs Campus<BR>Flinders
Christian Community College<BR>e: <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:daniel.stanley@flinders.vic.edu.au"
target=_blank>daniel.stanley@flinders.vic.edu.au </A><BR>w: 03
97850000<BR>m: 0423960800<BR>f: 03 97735710<BR><BR><BR>"All we
have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to
us."<BR><BR>J.R.R Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring<BR>British scholar
& fantasy novelist (1892 - 1973) <BR><BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target=_blank>moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au</A><BR>[mailto:<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au" target=_blank>
moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au</A> ] On Behalf Of victor rajewski<BR>Sent:
Tuesday, 21 August 2007 2:39 PM<BR>To: The Moodle Users' in Schools
Mailing List<BR>Subject: Re: [Moodle] Moodle award<BR><BR>I've used and
developed for both plone and drupal. They are both great <BR>systems,
albeit with slightly different goals. Plone needs more work<BR>setting up,
and you have to think about things a bit more at the outset.<BR>It is
very, very configurable. Drupal on the other hand works better<BR>straight
out of the box, and mainly configurable via plugins (which you<BR>can
write your own), but I would suggest works better on smaller
scale<BR>operations. Plone also seems to have better 'direction'<BR>as a
project than drupal. <BR><BR>vik<BR><BR>On 8/20/07, Laurie Savage <<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au"
target=_blank>sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au</A>> wrote:<BR>> I'm invstigating
Plone for an Intranet Solution on a server I've <BR>> high-jacked for
Info. Tech. It has a short, steep learning curve for <BR>> the
administrator but is very interesting. I find it is a simpler and<BR>>
a better document repository than Drupal or Mambo/Joomla. It has <BR>>
rather neat graphics capacities and work flows that will lend <BR>>
themselves to collaborative student tasks. Look at the nice URL in
the<BR><BR>> Firefox screen-shot (not the domain, it's not fixed). I
don't have a <BR>publicly available site
yet.<BR>><BR>>
Debian/Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install plone-site"! <BR>><BR>> I gave
up on Drupal because the Admin. Pages scroll too far and I<BR>> could
never get the hang of its image handling although its <BR>>
collaborative tools are good. Anyone interested in Plone could do a
<BR>> lot worse than having a quick look at the "Introduction to
Plone"<BR>> and/or "Editing with Plone" videos on <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://plone.org/about/movies"
target=_blank>http://plone.org/about/movies</A><BR>> <BR>>
Laurie<BR>><BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target=_blank>moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au </A><BR>> [mailto:<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target=_blank>moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au </A>]<BR>> On Behalf Of
Stephen Digby <BR>> Sent: Monday, 20 August 2007 1:12 PM<BR>> To:
'The Moodle Users' in Schools Mailing List'<BR>> Subject: RE: [Moodle]
Moodle award<BR>><BR>> I have got around this by moving all our
intranet INSIDE moodle <BR>folders.<BR>> i.e. ALL students software is
within a meta course for student<BR>> software, all teacher references
are within a moodle course for<BR>student references etc.<BR>> These
course folders are also mapped directly for quick access while <BR>>
students are at school.<BR>> This allows teacher and students to
exchange links to the resources<BR>> which will work the same way at
school as outside school.<BR>><BR>> Now building forums inside these
courses that detail the resources so <BR>> that they are more
effectively searchable through the forum
search<BR>feature.<BR>><BR>> Had to hack a bit of moodle (the bit
that tries to calculate folder<BR>> sizes when displaying directories)
as it fails when it tries to <BR>> calculate 11 Gb of folders
!!!!<BR>><BR>>
====================================================<BR>> Stephen
Digby, Learning Technology Manager<BR>> mailto: <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au"
target=_blank>admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au </A><BR>> Cheltenham Secondary
College <A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au/"
target=_blank>www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au</A><BR>> Ph: 613 955 55
955 Fx: 9555 8617 Mb: 0431-701-028 <BR>>
==================================================== <BR>> I
hope....that mankind will at length, ...have the reason and sense<BR>>
enough to settle their differences without cutting throats...<BR>>
Benjamin Franklin <BR>><BR>><BR>> -----Original Message-----
<BR>> From: <A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target=_blank>moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au </A><BR>> [mailto:<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target=_blank>moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>]<BR>> On Behalf Of
victor rajewski <BR>> Sent: Monday, 20 August 2007 12:00 PM <BR>>
To: The Moodle Users' in Schools Mailing List<BR>> Subject: Re:
[Moodle] Moodle award<BR>><BR>> If the folder cannot be accessed
from outside, then the folder can't <BR>> be accessed from outside,
irrespective of whether there are links to <BR>> it. The only solution
is to somehow provide external access to the<BR>> folder, either by
allowing direct access to the server (this can <BR>> usually be locked
down), or via some kind of proxy solution like using <BR><BR>> apache
and samba described below. Or using a VPN for the whole thing
-<BR><BR>> this would be just like being inside the school.
<BR>><BR>> vik<BR>><BR>> On 8/17/07, Alan Oh <<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:OH.A@wcc.vic.edu.au" target=_blank>
OH.A@wcc.vic.edu.au</A>> wrote:<BR>> > Hi Vik. The moodle server
is a linux machine, totally different to<BR>> > the MyFolder server.
MyFolder is a network folder available within <BR>> > the school
network but not available outside, unless a VPN is set <BR>up.<BR>>
><BR>> > Alan<BR>> ><BR>> > -----Original
Message-----<BR>> > From: <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target=_blank>moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au</A><BR>> > [mailto:<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target=_blank>moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>] On Behalf Of victor
rajewski <BR>> > Sent: Friday, 17 August 2007 12:28 PM<BR>> >
To: The Moodle Users' in Schools Mailing List<BR>> > Subject: Re:
[Moodle] Moodle award<BR>> ><BR>> > On 8/17/07, Alan Oh <<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:OH.A@wcc.vic.edu.au" target=_blank>
OH.A@wcc.vic.edu.au</A>> wrote: <BR>> > > Ahem, I don't want
to sidetrack the discusion about the Ultranet,<BR>> > > but does
anyone know if there is a way around this scenario:<BR>> >
><BR>> > > - The moodle server is inhouse <BR>> > > -
I have a Windows file server containing a folder
called<BR>"MyFolder"<BR>> > > that I did a webshare on. Ths
folder has pictures, etc that <BR>> > > teachers want students to
access/view <BR>> > > - in moodle, I used "Link to a file or
website" to link to<BR>"MyFolder"<BR>> > > - all works
well....inhouse.<BR>> > > - when logged in to moodle from home,
the MyFolder link fails. <BR>> ><BR>> > Is the windows
fileserver which MyFolder is on accessible from the<BR>> > outside
world? Does it have the same address/domain name inside as<BR>> > it
does outside?<BR>> ><BR>> > Is your moodle server running on
linux or windows; if windows, is it <BR><BR>> > the same server as
the file share is on?<BR>> ><BR>> > vik<BR>> >
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