If you are an AEU member, also drop them an e-mail.<br>I was gob smacked to hear of their involvement last week.<br>I can understand why they might be consulted in relation<br>to teacher workload .. but can they see the bigger picture?
<br><br>Regards Roland<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 15/08/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Meadows, Roslyn M</b> <<a href="mailto:Meadows.Roslyn.M@edumail.vic.gov.au">Meadows.Roslyn.M@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I agree wholeheartedly Roland – now why
are we not making a song and dance about this in the press?</span></font></p><span class="q">
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Cheers</span></font></p>
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<p><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;" lang="EN-US">
<a href="mailto:moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
moodle-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Roland Gesthuizen<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 15 August 2007
5:23 PM<span class="q"><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> The Moodle Users' in Schools
Mailing List<br></span>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Moodle] Moodle award</span></font><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I heard the same thing,
2010 was only a target launch date .. they don't expect a wider implementation
schedule until after then. Don't hold your breath or you will burst.<br>
<br>
Good schools teach with the "here and now" for a future that doesn't
even exist yet. <br>
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I am no fan of pump priming closed-source corporate software projects,
regardless of the visions, dreams and other good intentions. This kind of money
would have been magic if redeployed for teacher PD, research, or seed grants to
subject associations like VITTA. <br>
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Divide the grant it by the number of teachers in Victoria and let your jaw drop... then
remember that they will be asking for more to keep it up to date (if they do).
Why stop when we could build your own custom operating system, office system
and finance system .. (sigh) <br>
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my 2 cents worth<br>
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Regards Roland</span></font></p>
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<p><span><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On 15/08/07, <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Stephen
Digby</span></b> <<a href="mailto:digby.stephen.p@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">digby.stephen.p@edumail.vic.gov.au
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<p><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Ultranet is not likely to be implemented
widely until 2010 at the earliest (assuming their publicly funded re-invention
of a more expensive private wheel goes smoothly).....</span></font></p>
<p><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Very little revealed about the ultra
except as gushing unsubstantiated press releases...</span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Meadows, Roslyn M<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 15 August 2007
4:38 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> The Moodle Users' in Schools
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [Moodle] Moodle award</span></font><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">My Principal keeps saying that from the beginning of next
year those of us in state schools will be forced to use the Ultranet.</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Is this correct – does anyone know?</span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">At a cost of $60Mill to develop Ultranet one has to wonder
why they just didn't put a few million into adapting moodle to Victorian
schools – eg by adding roll marking and reporting modules. </span></font></p>
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<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Cheers</span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Roland Gesthuizen<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 15 August 2007
3:47 PM<br>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">If you
think Moodle should win a PacktPub award, please consider a nomination:<br>
<a href="http://www.packtpub.com/article/nominate-overall-open-source-cms-winner" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.packtpub.com/article/nominate-overall-open-source-cms-winner
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(Moodle isn't technically not a <a href="http://moodle.org/mod/data/view.php?d=13&rid=500" title="Content Management System" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">content management system
</a>but they still
qualify for this award) <br clear="all">
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Regards Roland<br>
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