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<div>Awesome!! No pressure of course!<br>
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Kylie&nbsp;</div>
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On 23 Oct 2015, at 2:39 pm, Poke, Michael C &lt;<a href="mailto:poke.michael.c@edumail.vic.gov.au">poke.michael.c@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Robert Hallworth,
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&nbsp;&nbsp;1. Re: 2015 DLTV Conference presentations (Roland Gesthuizen)<br class="">
&nbsp;&nbsp;2. Re: Normalisation practical exercises for exam revision<br class="">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(Robert Hallworth)<br class="">
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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 12:05:54 &#43;1100<br class="">
From: Roland Gesthuizen &lt;<a href="mailto:rgesthuizen@gmail.com">rgesthuizen@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br class="">
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] 2015 DLTV Conference presentations<br class="">
To: &quot;Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List&quot;<br class="">
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They are a great team at the DLTV office and whilst they don?t spam our lists with posts, they do read, reflect and respond to feedback. Often as easy as an email or follow up phone call. Glad you could work it out with them Carlo.<br class="">
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">On 23 Oct 2015, at 11:52 AM, Ripoli, Carlo C &lt;<a href="mailto:ripoli.carlo.c@edumail.vic.gov.au">ripoli.carlo.c@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>&gt; wrote:<br class="">
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Hi Roland<br class="">
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Yes, Fay from DLTV contacted me and she sent the presentations of the sessions I was interested in.<br class="">
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To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br class="">
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] 2015 DLTV Conference presentations<br class="">
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If there is something particular you are looking for to help plan for 2016, I can imagine that you can directly contact the office for details.<br class="">
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Please don?t quote me but I have heard of work to create a dedicated domain to host the DIgiCon stuff. Its a good idea and we may hear something shortly about this. Keep an eye out on the DLTV eNews items or Twitter alerts.<br class="">
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">On 16 Oct 2015, at 7:14 AM, Ripoli, Carlo C &lt;<a href="mailto:ripoli.carlo.c@edumail.vic.gov.au">ripoli.carlo.c@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>&gt; wrote:<br class="">
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At the DLTV conference this year it was mentioned that the presentations for the sessions would be made available to download. Was this material going to be placed on the DLTV website or elsewhere? I had a quick look at the website but cannot find it.<br class="">
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Does anyone know where this can be found?<br class="">
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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 04:24:58 &#43;0000<br class="">
From: Robert Hallworth &lt;<a href="mailto:hallworth.r@wcc.vic.edu.au">hallworth.r@wcc.vic.edu.au</a>&gt;<br class="">
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Normalisation practical exercises for<br class="">
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From: <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of Watson, Donald R<br class="">
Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2015 10:52 PM<br class="">
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br class="">
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Normalisation practical exercises for exam revision<br class="">
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Supplementary materials.<br class="">
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Don<br class="">
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From: <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>&lt;<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>&gt; [<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
 On Behalf Of Chris Morgan<br class="">
Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2015 9:59 PM<br class="">
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Normalisation practical exercises for exam revision<br class="">
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Hi all ? just doing some revision with my students (as I?m sure we all are) ? I?d LOVE to find some practical exercises to work through to hone our normalisation skills. Yep, I know there are the questions on the previous years? exams, however that?s only a
 few?.anybody know of some or can suggest where I might look?<br class="">
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Thanks Chris<br class="">
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From: <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>&lt;<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>&gt; [<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
 On Behalf Of Robert Timmer-Arends<br class="">
Sent: Thursday, 23 April 2015 6:12 PM<br class="">
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List &lt;<a href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">itapps@edulists.com.au</a>&lt;<a href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au</a>&gt;&gt;<br class="">
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Normalisation<br class="">
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Hello Mark and others<br class="">
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One of the concerns I have about these normalisation discussions is that there appear to be a lot of issues conflated into a single word 'normalisation', hence not leading to clear answers.<br class="">
For example, when one says 'a clear and logical way to explain normalisation' does one mean:<br class="">
- explain what normalisation is<br class="">
- explain why normalisation is needed<br class="">
- explain how to recognise when a set of tables is (is not) normalised<br class="">
- explain what the normal forms are<br class="">
- explain how to arrive at each normal form<br class="">
- explain why each normal form is defined the way it is (what it is trying to prevent/achieve)<br class="">
etc<br class="">
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Robert T-A<br class="">
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From: Mark&lt;<a href="mailto:mark@vceit.com">mailto:mark@vceit.com</a>&gt;<br class="">
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... slides which I'm still trying to get right. &nbsp;:-o<br class="">
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I keep trying to find a clear and logical way to explain normalisation, but never quite get there.<br class="">
Just be thankful we only need to get to 3NF, and not 5NF.<br class="">
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Arghh!<br class="">
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On 23 April 2015 at 13:24, Laurie Savage &lt;<a href="mailto:08327998@pvgc.vic.edu.au">08327998@pvgc.vic.edu.au</a>&lt;<a href="mailto:08327998@pvgc.vic.edu.au">mailto:08327998@pvgc.vic.edu.au</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br class="">
I guess you have shown them Mark Kelly's wonderful slides?<br class="">
Laurie<br class="">
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Laurie Savage<br class="">
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On 23 April 2015 at 11:34, Sylvia Pastore &lt;<a href="mailto:smp191172@gmail.com">smp191172@gmail.com</a>&lt;<a href="mailto:smp191172@gmail.com">mailto:smp191172@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br class="">
Hi all,<br class="">
Would anyone have any tasks relating to normalisation that they are willing to share, my kids need more practise.<br class="">
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