<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">It all depends on what's meant by "track," "phone" and "off.” Its actually quite complicated and sophisticated.</div><div class=""><a href="http://www.darkreading.com/risk-management/can-the-nsa-really-track-turned-off-cellphones/d/d-id/1110897?page_number=1" class="">http://www.darkreading.com/risk-management/can-the-nsa-really-track-turned-off-cellphones/d/d-id/1110897?page_number=1</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If anybody is really concerned, remove the phone’s battery and avoid using turning it on to make phone calls, post to social media or view a map. Only use cheap phones that can be regularly given away or recycled. Personally, I would recommend considering using a land line from within the safety of a faraday-cage such as the backyard chook shed.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards Roland</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 18 Aug 2015, at 8:34 am, John Bellavance <<a href="mailto:John.Bellavance@beaconhills.vic.edu.au" class="">John.Bellavance@beaconhills.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Hi Michael,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Thank you for the links.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Are you saying that if your phone is turned off, it is still tracking?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">If so, do you have an article about this.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">John Bellavance<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Beaconhills College<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Walker, Michael A<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, 17 August 2015 6:07 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">itapps@edulists.com.au</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Privacy, metadata and your phone<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">There’s also a Victorian site for open data :<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.data.vic.gov.au/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.data.vic.gov.au/</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">The Victorian government also run a hackathon – there was one run a few months back.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Also of interest I use in class is getting students to log in to their Google account then go to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.google.com/locationhistory/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">www.google.com/locationhistory/</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">The new version has a really nice interface for seeing exactly where you have been over the last day, week, month, year, etc.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I also use it in Year 11 IT related to ethical ICT issues where I get students to tell me about how they feel about their location being tracked constantly, then tell the story of someone I heard of through a common acquaintance who was a reformed drug dealer whose former acquaintances tried to set him up. After a period of time sweating blood, the police let him know that he was no longer under suspicion of the crime he had been set up for, but his mates were. The basis for this was the phone location data for him and his mates – the police could see where he had been helping serve meals to the poor, whereas his mates who thought they were clever turning their phones off didn’t realise the phone still kept saving location data…<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Michael Walker<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Doncaster Secondary College<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Robert Timmer-Arends<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, 17 August 2015 5:50 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Privacy, metadata and your phone<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Thanks for posting this Michael - I saw the Will Ockenden's report on the ABC the other night and had fogotten all about it. You've also reminded me of something that came up at one of the DLTV DigiCon sessions a few week ago, and that I thought might be a useful posting for this list. Apparently not many people had heard of GovHack, which in itself isn't important, but what could be useful is the list of Australian data sources GovHack has published.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://www.govhack.org/2015-data/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.govhack.org/2015-data/</a></span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Regards</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Robert T-A</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: black; border-left-width: 1.5pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4pt; margin: 5pt 0cm 5pt 3.75pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">----- Original Message -----<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228);" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:poke.michael.c@edumail.vic.gov.au" title="poke.michael.c@edumail.vic.gov.au" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Poke, Michael C</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">To:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au%3e" title="itapps@edulists.com.au" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><itapps@edulists.com.au></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday, August 16, 2015 8:59 PM<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Year 12 IT Apps] Privacy, metadata and your phone<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Hi all,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">I found this fascinating website about how our phones virtually track our every move...<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-16/metadata-retention-privacy-phone-will-ockenden/6694152" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-16/metadata-retention-privacy-phone-will-ockenden/6694152</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">I thought it could be useful for U4O2 as well as the SAT next year. I've included it in a repository of links that could be useful for the big SAT next year over on the VCE Computing Teachers Google+ Community (which now boasts 67 members currently...albeit not very active...as yet!). I'm pretty sure we could all benefit from contributing to this repository for the SAT also. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="" class="">VCE Computing Teachers on G+:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://plus.google.com/u/2/communities/104249627663280730813" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://plus.google.com/u/2/communities/104249627663280730813</a>></span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></blockquote><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Cheers,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Michael <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class="">Important -<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>This email and any attachments may be confidential. 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