<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">So the nuts and bolts is about teaching how to manipulate data to create a web product (prototype site) that solves an information problem. With Web-powered applications such as the Google suite (ala Google Sites) there will be the same learning, similar functions albeit with a different toolbox. As usual we should avoid trying to compile list a set of skills around just one tool (differences between Access and Filemaker come to mind).<div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Of course there is a more detailed list of specific functions amongst my VCAA notes that we must consult first. Can somebody dig this up? I have got to get back to my year 9 reports before the sword above my head falls.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div apple-content-edited="true" class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 27 Nov 2014, at 11:03 am, Poke, Michael C <<a href="mailto:poke.michael.c@edumail.vic.gov.au" class="">poke.michael.c@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="">Interestingly, the relevant Key Knowledge and Skill in the Study Design say:</div>
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<div class=""> "functions of web authoring software used to manipulate data”</div>
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<div class=""> "use web authoring software and select and apply suitable functions, methods, formats, conventions, techniques and design elements to develop prototype websites that operate as intended”</div>
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<div class="">Nothing said about specific skills in HTML or CSS. So it comes down to what constitutes “web-authoring software” these days.</div>
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<div class="">Cheers,</div>
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 22:49:10 +1100<br class="">
From: Bill Oldham <0woldham8@gmail.com><br class="">
Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] Creating websites?<br class="">
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Hi everyone,<br class="">
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Just home from an Adobe presentation of Adobe Muse for website creation on<br class="">
a visual basis. No knowledge of HTML, CSS seems to be needed.<br class="">
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Could a software program like this be used to meet the Year 12 ITA course<br class="">
requirements?<br class="">
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It is able to create a website. But little more than point and click<br class="">
appears to be needed to create an online community.<br class="">
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 23:09:25 +1100<br class="">
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An interesting question indeed. A decade ago, knowledge of HTML would have<br class="">
been required. Times change, CMS and click/drag site builders are now the<br class="">
norm. VCAA's list of required skills for websites may need a face lift,<br class="">
because its age is starting to show...<br class="">
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On Wednesday, November 26, 2014, Bill Oldham <0woldham8@gmail.com> wrote:<br class="">
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">Hi everyone,<br class="">
<br class="">
Just home from an Adobe presentation of Adobe Muse for website creation on<br class="">
a visual basis. No knowledge of HTML, CSS seems to be needed.<br class="">
<br class="">
Could a software program like this be used to meet the Year 12 ITA course<br class="">
requirements?<br class="">
<br class="">
It is able to create a website. But little more than point and click<br class="">
appears to be needed to create an online community.<br class="">
<br class="">
Cheers,<br class="">
Bill Oldham (retired from RMIT)<br class="">
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mark AT vceit DOT com<br class="">
http://vceit.com<br class="">
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*I enjoy non-sequiturs because... cows.*<br class="">
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I, Mark Kelly, am entirely responsible for the rambling verbiage I spew<br class="">
forth.<br class="">
Have I offended anyone with this post? I would not be surprised.<br class="">
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Please leave poor Kevork alone. It is not his fault.<br class="">
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From: "Baas, Benjamin B" <baas.benjamin.b@edumail.vic.gov.au><br class="">
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Creating websites?<br class="">
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It would be nice to be able to use a CMS, there are some good free ones available. At the moment I have limited software choice and most of students will be making sites using only notepad++.<br class="">
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Ben.<br class="">
Alkira<br class="">
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From: itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark<br class="">
Sent: Wednesday, 26 November 2014 11:09 PM<br class="">
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Creating websites?<br class="">
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An interesting question indeed. A decade ago, knowledge of HTML would have been required. Times change, CMS and click/drag site builders are now the norm. VCAA's list of required skills for websites may need a face lift, because its age is starting to show...<br class="">
<br class="">
On Wednesday, November 26, 2014, Bill Oldham <0woldham8@gmail.com<mailto:0woldham8@gmail.com>> wrote:<br class="">
Hi everyone,<br class="">
Just home from an Adobe presentation of Adobe Muse for website creation on a visual basis. No knowledge of HTML, CSS seems to be needed.<br class="">
Could a software program like this be used to meet the Year 12 ITA course requirements?<br class="">
<br class="">
It is able to create a website. But little more than point and click appears to be needed to create an online community.<br class="">
<br class="">
Cheers,<br class="">
Bill Oldham (retired from RMIT)<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
--<br class="">
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Mark Kelly<br class="">
mark AT vceit DOT com<br class="">
http://vceit.com<br class="">
<br class="">
I enjoy non-sequiturs because... cows.<br class="">
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I, Mark Kelly, am entirely responsible for the rambling verbiage I spew forth.<br class="">
Have I offended anyone with this post? I would not be surprised.<br class="">
If offended, please whinge to me at the email address above.<br class="">
Please leave poor Kevork alone. It is not his fault.<br class="">
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From: "Savage, John L" <savage.john.l@edumail.vic.gov.au><br class="">
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Creating websites?<br class="">
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If we could use a CMS it?s not far from building the site in Google Sites is it?<br class="">
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Laurie Savage<br class="">
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Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2014 7:56 AM<br class="">
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It would be nice to be able to use a CMS, there are some good free ones available. At the moment I have limited software choice and most of students will be making sites using only notepad++.<br class="">
<br class="">
Ben.<br class="">
Alkira<br class="">
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From: itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au<mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au> [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark<br class="">
Sent: Wednesday, 26 November 2014 11:09 PM<br class="">
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br class="">
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Creating websites?<br class="">
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An interesting question indeed. A decade ago, knowledge of HTML would have been required. Times change, CMS and click/drag site builders are now the norm. VCAA's list of required skills for websites may need a face lift, because its age is starting to show...<br class="">
<br class="">
On Wednesday, November 26, 2014, Bill Oldham <0woldham8@gmail.com<mailto:0woldham8@gmail.com>> wrote:<br class="">
Hi everyone,<br class="">
Just home from an Adobe presentation of Adobe Muse for website creation on a visual basis. No knowledge of HTML, CSS seems to be needed.<br class="">
Could a software program like this be used to meet the Year 12 ITA course requirements?<br class="">
<br class="">
It is able to create a website. But little more than point and click appears to be needed to create an online community.<br class="">
<br class="">
Cheers,<br class="">
Bill Oldham (retired from RMIT)<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
--<br class="">
<br class="">
Mark Kelly<br class="">
mark AT vceit DOT com<br class="">
http://vceit.com<br class="">
<br class="">
I enjoy non-sequiturs because... cows.<br class="">
<br class="">
I, Mark Kelly, am entirely responsible for the rambling verbiage I spew forth.<br class="">
Have I offended anyone with this post? I would not be surprised.<br class="">
If offended, please whinge to me at the email address above.<br class="">
Please leave poor Kevork alone. It is not his fault.<br class="">
<br class="">
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