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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>OT but . . . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Takes me back many years to pre-Windows when we
were teaching programming at Year 11 using Turbo Pascal. One very bright young
lady (and quite wild Mark :-) ) set her editing skin to dark blue text on a
black background, which I could hardly read. Also had a very individual style
for variable names which made it very easy to pick those few other students who
chose to copy her work.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Robert Hind<BR>Retired<BR>Ex Traralgon and
Ashwood</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=savage.john.l@edumail.vic.gov.au
href="mailto:savage.john.l@edumail.vic.gov.au">Savage, John L</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=itapps@edulists.com.au
href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing
List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 27, 2014 10:30
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Creating
websites?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hi
Benjamin,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">It’s
funny you should mention Notepad++. We love it. My girls were sold on it for
two reasons – Block Selection and Themes! Once they discovered Hello Kitty and
the dark, brooding Twilight-ish themes that was it. Some of them even went so
far as to turn off colour coding/matching just because they could. And the
appalling fonts they chose! I have never seen HTML coded in 18pt Segoe
Handwriting before; all in all it was a lovely way to lure them into coding,
and quite unintentional.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Laurie<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US>
itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Savage, John L<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 27 November 2014 8:46
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing
List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Creating
websites?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">If
we could use a CMS it’s not far from building the site in Google Sites is
it?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Laurie
Savage<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US> <A
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>
[<A
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Baas, Benjamin B<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 27 November
2014 7:56 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing
List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Creating
websites?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: EN-US">It
would be nice to be able to use a CMS, there are some good free ones
available. At the moment I have limited software choice and most of students
will be making sites using only notepad++.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: EN-US">Ben.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: EN-US">Alkira<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang=EN-US> <A
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>
[<A
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Mark<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 26 November 2014 11:09
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing
List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Creating
websites?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>An interesting question indeed. A decade ago, knowledge of
HTML would have been required. Times change, CMS and click/drag site builders
are now the norm. VCAA's list of required skills for websites may need a face
lift, because its age is starting to show...<BR><BR>On Wednesday, November 26,
2014, Bill Oldham <<A
href="mailto:0woldham8@gmail.com">0woldham8@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal>Hi
everyone,<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal>Just home from an Adobe
presentation of Adobe Muse for website creation on a visual basis. No
knowledge of HTML, CSS seems to be needed.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Could a software program like this be used to meet the
Year 12 ITA course requirements? <BR><BR>It is able to create a
website. But little more than point and click appears to be needed to create
an online community.<BR clear=all><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Bill Oldham (retired from
RMIT)<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P class=MsoNormal><BR><BR>-- <o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Mark Kelly<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>mark AT vceit DOT com<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><A href="http://vceit.com"
target=_blank>http://vceit.com</A><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><I>I enjoy non-sequiturs because...
cows.</I><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>I, Mark Kelly, am entirely responsible for the rambling
verbiage I spew forth.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Have I offended anyone with this post? I would not be
surprised.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>If offended, please whinge to me at the email address
above. <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Please leave poor Kevork alone. It is not his
fault.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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