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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Good Morning everyone<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I have often told my students with respect to Microsoft &#8220;Just because you can doesn&#8217;t mean you should&#8221;. I reckon we should continue to use queries for calculated fields for the following reasons:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">&middot;<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">The VCAA website states that students should &#8220;create, edit and use queries&#8221;. We can sort in tables and sort and group in reports, so although in Access we may not need queries, we must teach students
 to use them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">&middot;<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">My understanding of normalisation is that we remove fields dependent on other fields (i.e. calculated fields). Question 9 on the 2012 exam and the examiner&#8217;s report, expects students to remove calculated
 fields as part of normalisation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Cheers <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Stuart Walkerden<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au
 [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>ATKINSON-BUCK, Damien<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 13 February 2014 1:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 IT Apps] MS Access - Calculated fields<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Hi folks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Just looking into Outcome 2 and looking at the 2010 version of MS Access. I hadn&#8217;t noticed before, but you can now create a calculated field &nbsp;in the table definitions.
 This means that not only does it do the calculation (duh) but stores that value too, so you no longer have to create a query to do that.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Now, I always stress to my cherubs that one of the primary reasons for making a database is to reduce the amount of space the data is going to take up. This new &#8216;feature&#8217; does
 the reverse. Given hard drives are so cheap and our down databases are comparatively quite small, it doesn&#8217;t really affect SAC scenarios&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; but should we be teaching best practices or &#8220;The Way of the Access&#8221;? How do others feel about this?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Damien<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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