<div dir="ltr">Good idea!</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 7 November 2013 08:56, Roland Gesthuizen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rgesthuizen@gmail.com" target="_blank">rgesthuizen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

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<br>Regards Roland<br><br><b>Roland Gesthuizen</b> | eLearning Leader <br>Keysborough College DEECD<br><a href="http://about.me/rgesthuizen" target="_blank">http://about.me/rgesthuizen</a></div><br style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;font-style:normal;white-space:normal;font-family:Helvetica;font-weight:normal;word-spacing:0px">

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</div></div></div><br><div><div>On 7 Nov 2013, at 8:47 am, Savage, John L &lt;<a href="mailto:savage.john.l@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">savage.john.l@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">

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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Laurie Savage<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></div>

<div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><span> </span><a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a><span> </span>[<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]<span> </span><b>On Behalf Of</b>Mark<br>

<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Wednesday, 6 November 2013 5:27 PM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span>Year 12 IT Applications Teachers&#39; Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>[Year 12 IT Apps] ITA exam - B10b (i)<u></u><u></u></span></div>

<div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">

Hi all. I&#39;m nearing the end of the post mortem, but this is turning into one of the dodgiest ITA exams I&#39;ve seen in some time.  <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">

<u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">Take this delight hiding in section B, Q10b part (i)...<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">

<u></u> <u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">&quot;i.         Describe how the manager can identify and display on a web page the cheapest fruit available.&quot;<br clear="all">

<u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">

I&#39;d like you all to pause for a moment and plan an answer to that in your heads. I&#39;ll wait. <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">

<u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">Finished? Are you sure? <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">

<u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">&quot;Yes, a quick =MIN(C2:C5) formula,&quot; you say.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">

<u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">But have you noticed the words &quot;<b>and display on a web page</b>&quot;?<u></u><u></u></div>

</div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">

Try answering it<span> </span><b>now</b>. <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">

Assuming that someone doesn&#39;t just<span> </span><b>look</b><span> </span>at the price onscreen and<span> </span><b>type</b><span> </span>it into a webpage manually with a webpage editor, do the examiners want kids to explain some ColdFusion, DDE link, SQL, or PHP code to magically extract a value from a spreadsheet/database and inject it into a dynamic web page?<u></u><u></u></div>

</div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">

And even if we<span> </span><b>did</b><span> </span>just use the MIN function, it would only display the<span> </span><b>value</b><span> </span>of the lowest price, not the<span> </span><b>name</b><span> </span>of the cheapest fruit... that&#39;s an achievable, but very different kettle of fish.<u></u><u></u></div>

</div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">

And it&#39;s worth all of<span> </span><b>2 marks</b>!<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">

Beyond belief. <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">

I&#39;m dying to see what the examiner&#39;s report gives as a model answer...<u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><u></u> <u></u></div>

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