<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Don't forget all the special characters that are valid! Plus sign, parentheses, hyphens and that 1300 BITE MEE could be a phone number!</div><div><br></div><div>Natalie Heath (Parade College)<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 05/06/2013, at 9:37 AM, "Harper, Glenda J" <<a href="mailto:harper.glenda.j@edumail.vic.gov.au">harper.glenda.j@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Goody! Now telephone numbers? Always text. Leading zero needs to be there, even if spaces are (wrongly) omitted.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
[<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Litsa Tzelepis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 5 June 2013 9:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Data type for postcode<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I still think – look at the data provided in the exam – and then decide the best option.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If it looks like this – 03 555 6789, it’s text, like this 035556789 it’s a number.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">For a couple of marks, it shouldn’t be this complicated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Clearly there are stacks of ways this can go – let’s agree to come up with a common sense way of answering a question.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Just my 20c worth, Litsa
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Margaret Lawson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 5 June 2013 1:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Data type for postcode<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Perhaps we should have another mailing list for post codes, judging by the discussion.<br>
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Given that this will impact on the marking of exams, perhaps we can suggest that more detail is included into the next study design so that there are not these discrepancies in interpretation of the study design.<br>
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US president also has a personal zip code.<br>
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Perhaps there are also fake postcodes used in movies, in the way that<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">Now I am curious .. wondering out aloud if countries insist upon anything other than traditional alphanumeric characters? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">From memory in London, the two letters at the end of the postcode numbers were only used to help divide up the mail for the postal delivery routes. Nothing special but I may be wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#888888;background:white">many of the lowest ZIP codes, which begin with '0', are in the </span><span style="color:#888888"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England" title="New England"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0B0080;background:white;text-decoration:none">New
England</span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#888888;background:white"> region. Also in the '0' region are </span><span style="color:#888888"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey" title="New Jersey"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0B0080;background:white;text-decoration:none">New
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addresses for personnel stationed in </span><span style="color:#888888"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe" title="Europe"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0B0080;background:white;text-decoration:none">Europe</span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#888888;background:white">, </span><span style="color:#888888"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa" title="Africa"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";background:white;text-decoration:none">Africa</span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#888888;background:white">, </span><span style="color:#888888"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Asia" title="Southwest Asia"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";background:white;text-decoration:none">Southwest
Asia</span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#888888;background:white"> and aboard vessels based in the waters adjoining those lands; APO/FPO addresses are also used by U.S. diplomatic and consulary facilities.
The lowest ZIP code is in </span><span style="color:#888888"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holtsville,_New_York" title="Holtsville, New York"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";background:white;text-decoration:none">Holtsville,
New York</span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#888888;background:white"> (00501, a ZIP code exclusively for the </span><span style="color:#888888"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Internal_Revenue_Service" title="U.S.
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Internal Revenue Service</span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#888888"> center there). </span><span style="color:#888888"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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