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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Scott<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 30 May 2013 9:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:#1F497D">There is a quite simple rule that I teach my students</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Litsa Tzelepis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 30 May 2013 9:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:#1F497D">Just jumping in at the last minute &#8211; for what it&#8217;s worth and sorry if I missed something.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:#1F497D">Can&#8217;t we just look at the data provided in a question and decide form there?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:#1F497D">Like if a question said &#8211;
<b>what data type is this 0410 555 555 &#8211; that would be text; 0410555555 &#8211; that would be number</b>.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:#1F497D">It&#8217;s pretty impossible to determine every possible scenario that a data item can be? Especially a postcode.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:#1F497D">A data type question should not be that complicated.</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Wayne Eglinton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 29 May 2013 9:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Data type for postcode</span></p>
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 we can't subscribe etc... It can seriously be a pain - and we just go to another website... bad for their&nbsp;business!!!</span></p>
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OLSH College<br>
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<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Stuart Walkerden (STUW) [stuw@huntingtower.vic.edu.au]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28 May 2013 13:20<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Data type for postcode</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:#1F497D">I reckon if it looks like a number, treat it as a number and use a number field type. Whether you perform calculations on it or not is irrelevant. I have
 always told my students to&nbsp; use postcode as a number and phone as text to allow for leading 0. I wasn&#8217;t aware of NT postcodes. I may have to change my line.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:#1F497D">Stuart Walkerden</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Athena Spyratos<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 28 May 2013 7:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 IT Apps] Data type for postcode</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:black">Do we declare the data type for Postcode as number or text?&nbsp;In database, if&nbsp;we apply a validation rule for a Victorian&nbsp;postcode as being between 3000 and 3999,
 then we declare it as a number. However going over one of the past exam multiple choice questions, the answer they wanted for the data type for Postcode was text. Which answer are the examiners looking for?</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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