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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 13 November 2012 3:26 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:#1F497D">Yeah I agree, Q6 must be A, since it can&#8217;t be the other 3&#8230;.</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Scott<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 13 November 2012 3:07 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Re MC Q6</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">C - Evaluation criteria are set during the Design stage not the Development stage.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">B &#8211; only checks the Quick Start Guide and not the solution</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">D is Evaluation (stage 4) and
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">So that would mean 6A is the best of a bad lot.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Woof?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">thanks</span></p>
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<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Shortell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 13 November 2012 2:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">On 13 November 2012 14:25, Jackson Bates &lt;<a href="mailto:bates.j@wcc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">bates.j@wcc.vic.edu.au</a>&gt; wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Thanks, Heath.<br>
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My only discrepancy was Q6 - I suggested A, which while worded to make it seem haphazard, implies testing. I figured the other three would all be part of evaluation.<br>
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Section B Question 9 was a bit of a worry...Did they want the kids to draw a 2NF set of tables and then a 3NF set of tables? I just jumped straight to 3NF and described what it would look like at each step. (Didn't use the second page at all...)<br>
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Also, Section B Q6...did everyone interpret that as &quot;Facebook. Discuss.&quot;?<br>
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General impression...apart from interpreting what the examiners actually wanted, it seemed like an easy paper.<br>
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Heya All,<br>
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I'll volunteer to make the first mistakes. Quick glance at multi-choice:<br>
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1. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; B (easy starter nice)<br>
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2. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; C<br>
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3. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; D<br>
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4. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; C<br>
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5. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; C<br>
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6. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; B<br>
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7. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; C<br>
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8. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; D<br>
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9. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; B<br>
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10. &nbsp; D<br>
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11. &nbsp; B<br>
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12. &nbsp; B<br>
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13. &nbsp; B<br>
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14. &nbsp; D<br>
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15. &nbsp; A<br>
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16. &nbsp; B<br>
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17. &nbsp; A<br>
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18. &nbsp; C<br>
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19. &nbsp; D<br>
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20. &nbsp; A<br>
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A big thanks to Andrew Pate from my two (out of five) students who showed up to class this morning where we concentrated on &quot;the big question&quot;. I thought VCAA might have made it a little more structured after last year's low response.<br>
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At least in this examiners report we will have a definite VCAA version of the normal forms. Hopefully it won't have any surprises.<br>
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