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<DIV></DIV><br><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Hind<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 4 September 2012 4:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] VCAA vs VCAA and the NPP's<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Interesting indeed.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>We have not yet gone down the track of one definitive number for each person - as the SSN in the US. But I am sure will go there. At least it will mean I don't have to remember all those different numbers: Medicare, Seniors card, Centre link CRN, etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>So perhaps a basic number imposed from the top might be a good idea. NPP notwithstanding.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Robert Hind (Retired) OOF, GOM, COF<br>ex Ashwood and Traralgon<br><a href="mailto:robert@yinnar.com">robert@yinnar.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:natinga71@yahoo.com" title="natinga71@yahoo.com">Natalie H</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au" title="itapps@edulists.com.au">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Tuesday, September 04, 2012 4:26 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] VCAA vs VCAA and the NPP's<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>So.... Why do they need a separate Vic student number? And they'll get another with the National Curriculum too I suspect. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>All interesting.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Natalie Heath (Parade College)<br><br>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><br>On 04/09/2012, at 4:12 PM, Mark KELLY <<a href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'>Any lawyers aboard? <br><br>I'd say VCAA and VTAC are probably considered part of the same organisation (under the DEECD umbrella, perhaps) and thus may use the same identifier.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>On 4 September 2012 14:49, ATKINSON-BUCK, Damien <<a href="mailto:Damien.ATKINSON-BUCK@ivanhoe.com.au" target="_blank">Damien.ATKINSON-BUCK@ivanhoe.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hi folks,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> I was going through the NPP’s with my year 12’s today. When we were discussing NPP 7 Identifiers (see below) one of my students asked why VCAA and VTAC both use their student numbers as the primary identifier. Does anyone out there know if this is indeed the case and if so, how they are allowed to do it, they are separate entities aren’t they? </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Damien</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>7.1 An organisation must not adopt as its own identifier of an individual an identifier of the individual that has been assigned by: </span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>(a) an agency; or</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>(b) an agent of an agency acting in its capacity as agent; or</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>(c) a contracted service provider for a Commonwealth contract acting in its capacity as contracted service provider for that contract</span></i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>7.1A However, subclause 7.1 does not apply to the adoption by a prescribed organisation of a prescribed identifier in prescribed circumstances. </span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Note: There are prerequisites that must be satisfied before those matters are prescribed: see subsection 100(2).</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>7.2 An organisation must not use or disclose an identifier assigned to an individual by an agency, or by an agent or contracted service provider mentioned in subclause 7.1, unless: </span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>(a) the use or disclosure is necessary for the organisation to fulfil its obligations to the agency; or</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>(b) one or more of paragraphs 2.1(e) to 2.1(h) (inclusive) apply to the use or disclosure; or</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>(c) the use or disclosure is by a prescribed organisation of a prescribed identifier in prescribed circumstances.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Note: There are prerequisites that must be satisfied before the matters mentioned in paragraph (c) are prescribed: see subsection 100(2). </span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>7.3 In this clause:</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>identifier includes a number assigned by an organisation to an individual to identify uniquely the individual for the purposes of the organisation's operations. However, an individual's name or ABN (as defined in the A New Tax System (Australian Business Number) Act 1999) is not an identifier. </span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=600 style='width:450.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><tr><td width=600 nowrap style='width:450.0pt;background:#F5F2DD;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div align=center><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=5 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td width=420 style='width:315.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Damien Atkinson-Buck</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>KLA Head - 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