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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I can’t confirm this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>In fact my understanding always has been that I don’t need a Formula List as my IPO chart would provide this in the ‘Process’ column.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>So my students’ columns are definitely related with a line for each calculation that takes place in the solution.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I don’t necessarily complete the IPO with exact formulas, I’m happy if my students are using pseudo code at this stage.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Adric Gardner<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Scott<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 24 July 2012 1:47 PM<br><b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Design Tools<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Can anybody else confirm this? (in red below)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Mark Scott<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Luther College<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=400 style='width:300.0pt'><tr><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#184689;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Mark Scott </span></b><b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#184689;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'><br></span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#184689;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Daily Administrator<br></span><span style='font-size:5.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:white;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Luther</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#808285;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Plymouth Road<br>Croydon Hills Victoria 3136<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:5.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:white;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Luther</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#808285;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Telephone (03) 9724 2000<br>Direct Line (03) 9724 2023 <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#808285;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'><a href="http://www.luther.vic.edu.au/"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#808285;text-decoration:none'>www.luther.vic.edu.au</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'><a href="http://www.luther.vic.edu.au/"><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=143 height=143 id=luther src="cid:image001.png@01CD69A7.185A04E0" alt="Luther College" name=luther></span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><div style='margin-top:7.5pt;float:left'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#CA003A;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Please consider the environment before printing this email.</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-top:3.75pt;line-height:110%'><span style='font-size:7.0pt;line-height:110%;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#808285'>This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information. <br>If you are not the intended recipient you may not distribute or reproduce this email <br>or attachments. If you have received this message in error please notify us by return mail.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'> <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]">[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Vera Cook<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 24 July 2012 1:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Design Tools<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Lisa<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>I would not be using an IPO like this , I have always classed the inputs are what you require to create your solution, processing as the doing things like creating a webpage, inserting formulas etc and output as what the actual solution is. As Mark says the way you have done it is repetitive, </span><b><span style='color:red'>also the columns are not supposed to be related.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Vera<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'> <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]">[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Litsa Tzelepis<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 24 July 2012 12:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Design Tools<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Oops!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'> Litsa Tzelepis <a href="mailto:[mailto:htzelepis@msj.vic.edu.au]">[mailto:htzelepis@msj.vic.edu.au]</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 24 July 2012 12:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'<br><b>Subject:</b> Design Tools<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Hello.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>I ‘m planning to go through some design tools for a practice SAC tomorrow (U4-O1) and I was wondering if the attached IPO Chart and Formulas List are okay to use?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>I have slightly modified the textbook example.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Thanks you in advance for any feedback, Litsa<span style='font-family:Wingdings'>J</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>---<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Litsa Tzelepis<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Mount St. Joseph Girl's College<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'><a href="mailto:htzelepis@msj.vic.edu.au">htzelepis@msj.vic.edu.au</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>P:8398 2000 | F:9398 3498<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>This Email and any attachments may be confidential and, if you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information in this email. 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