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<p>I teach both business and IT, so obviously I'm going to take issue with you saying using business functions are not "real" computing</p>
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<p>I think the reason why business concepts can be applied so readily to IT is because IT (or any other technology) is there to serve a distinct purpose. i.e. How can this problem be resolved?</p>
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<p>I think it'd be impossible to separate the two areas because they have grown together. There wouldn't be so many people using ICT if not for business (and marketing!). They are not mutually exclusive and can't be separated from each other.
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<p>- Stuart Anderson</p>
<p>Kambrya College</p>
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<div style="DIRECTION: ltr" id="divRpF638223"><font color="#000000" size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] on behalf of Andrew Shortell [shortell@get2me.net]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 7 December 2011 9:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Year 12 Info Tech<br>
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<div><font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Perhaps we could move those business functions out of IT and into the business subjects because all subjects are supposed to have ICT and the business stuff is certainly not
real computing science<br>
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Then we would be left with just computing in in the computing subject!!<br>
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The business people would be delighted because then they could teach it their way and teach “at the point of need to know” always a more effective way of ensuring students pay attention!<br>
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And we would all be happy because we could do real computing in the computing subject.<br>
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Andrew<br>
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On 7/12/11 4:05 AM, "Mark Scott" <<a href="https://www.edumail.vic.gov.au/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx" target="_blank">msc@luther.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote><font size="2"><font face="Tahoma, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">It would kill the subject completely here at Luther.<br>
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Mark Scott<br>
Luther College<br>
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itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="https://www.edumail.vic.gov.au/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of Roland Gesthuizen [<a href="https://www.edumail.vic.gov.au/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx" target="_blank">rgesthuizen@gmail.com</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 IT Apps] Year 12 Info Tech<br>
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Here is an interesting question I could toss to this group to mull over. <br>
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When we consider the progressive declining enrollment in the year 12 IS and ITA, is there merit in a long term thought to combine the two into a single year 12 Info Tech subject?<br>
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No agenda, just plain old curious about your thoughts.<br>
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Regards Roland<br>
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On 6 December 2011 17:33, Robert Hind <<a href="https://www.edumail.vic.gov.au/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx" target="_blank">robert@yinnar.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote><font face="Arial"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">So let's get this back where it belongs! Or at least separate the ItApps and the SoftDev discussions.<br>
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</span></font></font><font face="Arial"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Thanks folks!</span></font><font size="2"><font face="Tahoma, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
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</span></font></font><font face="Arial"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Robert Hind (Semi-retired) OOF, GOM, COF<br>
Ashwood and Traralgon<br>
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