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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>No Mark you did not suggest that! But the U401
outcomes are essentially to do with databases, whatever the SD
says.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I just have a real problem with using a spreadsheet
to do what is essentially database work. It is like using MS Word to do desktop
publishing. Perhaps we are headed towards the MSicandoitall.exe that will do
word processing, spreadsheets, databases, dtp, slide shows - and would you like
fries with that?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Please let's use appropriate software.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Robert Hind (Semi-retired) OOF, GOM, COF<BR>Ashwood
and Traralgon<BR><A
href="mailto:robert@yinnar.com">robert@yinnar.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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<A title=kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au">Mark KELLY</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 05, 2011 3:30
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps]
Spreadsheet vs Database for U4O1</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Robert<BR><BR>I don't use spreadsheets as databases... did I
somehow suggest that?<BR><BR>I've found the number of students having trouble
with spreadsheets is <B>way</B> less than those having dB trouble - and their
marks for U4O1 compared to U3O2 clearly reflect that.<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 5 December 2011 15:14, Robert Hind <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:robert@yinnar.com">robert@yinnar.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>Hi Mark,<BR><BR>I have never been in favour of using a
spreadsheet as a database. So would<BR>really go for a RDBMS for U401 rather
than spreadsheet software. Introduce<BR>the RDBMS in year 11 and progress
from there. Sure some students have<BR>problems with databases, but
then the same students have trouble with<BR>spreadsheets :-)<BR><SPAN
class=HOEnZb><FONT color=#888888><BR>Robert Hind (Semi-retired) OOF, GOM,
COF<BR>Ashwood and Traralgon<BR><A
href="mailto:robert@yinnar.com">robert@yinnar.com</A><BR></FONT></SPAN>
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<DIV class=h5><BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Mark Scott"
<<A
href="mailto:msc@luther.vic.edu.au">msc@luther.vic.edu.au</A>><BR>To:
"Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"<BR><<A
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Monday, December 05, 2011 10:28 AM<BR>Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] Spreadsheet
vs Database for U4O1<BR><BR><BR>> Dear all<BR>><BR>> I am
considering a move away from Spreadsheets for U4O1.<BR>><BR>> It just
seemed that the 2011 exam might have favoured those students who<BR>> did
Databases instead.<BR>><BR>> What do people think?<BR>><BR>>
thanks<BR>> Mark Scott<BR>> Luther College<BR>><BR>> "The busier
you get, the slower you walk" anon<BR>><BR>>
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