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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>Thanks Robert & Michael, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>I missed this while looking at my options.<br>(although we did do it this year as we used dreamweaver.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>Ok, the paid version of <a href="http://www.yola.com">www.yola.com</a> enables custom css scripting.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>However, even the basic version creates CSS for the site when you’ve designed it. Does this meet the criteria? the software is producing CSS and students change the CSS when changing the site’s appearance, they simply can’t change the code directly.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>I take this to be the same as using Access to create queries. In access, you are not writing the SQL query, just the query condition. Am I stretching this too far?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>Thanks for all your help and advice.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>Adric<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Torsello (Mr)<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 25 November 2011 2:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Web Authoring Software<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='color:#1F497D'>Adric</span></a><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>From the VCAA support materials: </span><a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/correspondence/bulletins/2010/July/vce_study.html#2">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/correspondence/bulletins/2010/July/vce_study.html#2</a><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/correspondence/bulletins/2010/July/vce_study.html#2"><b><span style='color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none'>IT Applications: Tools and functions 2011</span></b></a><span style='color:#1F497D'><br>As published in the VCAA Bulletin, July 10, pp.5-6.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:160%'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>Web authoring software</span></b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:186.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:160%;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:160%;font-family:Symbol;color:windowtext;background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext;background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>cascading style sheet<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:186.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:160%;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:160%;font-family:Symbol;color:windowtext'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>edit and format content<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:186.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:160%;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:160%;font-family:Symbol;color:windowtext'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>links (relative and absolute links, internal and external links)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:186.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:160%;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:160%;font-family:Symbol;color:windowtext'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>navigation<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:186.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:160%;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:160%;font-family:Symbol;color:windowtext'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>buttons<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:186.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:160%;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:160%;font-family:Symbol;color:windowtext'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>screen layout<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:186.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:160%;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:160%;font-family:Symbol;color:windowtext'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>tagging (metadata tags, alt tags)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:186.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:160%;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:160%;font-family:Symbol;color:windowtext'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>forms<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:186.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:160%;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:160%;font-family:Symbol;color:windowtext'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>incorporate images/sound<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>This is the minimum expectations at Units 3 / 4. Worth looking at for other software too.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>With Thanks</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Michael Torsello</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Director of Computing</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>St Margaret's School, Berwick</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Berwick Grammar School, Officer</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ph: (03) 9703 8111</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:#45834C'>P</span><span style='color:#45834C'> Save paper and trees. Do you need to print this email?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adric Gardner<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 25 November 2011 2:00 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Web Authoring Software<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>From what I have seen, they entirely meet all of the Key Skills.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>There is no mention of CSS or even html in the study design in any of the Units. The closest is:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span></span><![endif]><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;background:#FFFFCC'>functions of web authoring software used to manipulate data<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;background:#FFFFCC'>and <o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:windowtext'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:windowtext'>functions, techniques and procedures for efficiently and effectively manipulating data using web authoring or multimedia authoring software.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>The only mention of style sheets in the entire IT study design document refers to the problem solving methodology.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>Can you let me know if I’ve missed something please.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>Adric<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]">[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mann, Warrick D<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 25 November 2011 11:31 AM<br><b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Web Authoring Software<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Adric,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>My question on using these tools would be, do they meet the Key Skills requirements for students? Such as CSS.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Warrick<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]">[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adric Gardner<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 25 November 2011 11:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Web Authoring Software<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>Yes, thanks for that Brett.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>I’ve looked at Kompozer (and seamonkey, coffeecup and some others)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>I would strongly recommend people take a look at Web Plus (by Serif) from a design perspective <br>(There is a free starter version available).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>However, I come back to my main question. Would a web based tool such as Weebly or Yola be considered a Web Authoring Tool for the sake of the study design?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>Adric<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]">[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brett Groves<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 25 November 2011 9:49 AM<br><b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Web Authoring Software<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Weebly is probably the easiest thing around if students were creating, say, an online help site. ie if the focus was the content and not the creation. If you were looking to focus on actual web design then I use Kompozer, it's FOSS, super easy to use and deceptively powerful with just a little css/html/javascript knowledge. It also contains none of the ExpressionWeb/Dreamweaver extras that I never use anyway<o:p></o:p></p><pre>Regards,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Brett Groves<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>ICT Manager<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Croydon Secondary College<o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><br>On 25/11/11 00:21, Adric Gardner wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Guys,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I’m considering a move away from Dreamweaver next year as I believe it is overly complicated for what they need to achieve.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I’m considering a move to something like <a href="http://www.yola.com">www.yola.com</a> which is an online drag and drop website creation tool.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>What I wanted to know is whether other people see this as a ‘Web Authoring Tool’ for study design purposes like I do.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif"'>Adric Gardner</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><u><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Yellow House Leader</span></u><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=30 height=27 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CCAB7D.CB7E1040" alt="1091_LOGO_S_COLOUR (1)"></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ashwood College</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#002060'>Vannam Drive</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#002060'>ASHWOOD 3147</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#002060'>Ph: (03) 9807 1333</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p><b>Important - </b>This email and any attachments may be confidential. 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