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<div>So all I can I say is...</div>
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<div><font size="2" face="tahoma">Mark Scott</font></div>
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<font color="#000000" size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Timmer-Arends [timmer@melbpc.org.au]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 18, 2011 4:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Hello all</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">and to throw my 2 cents worth into a discussion I'm not really on top of, apart from agreeing with Mark, I also want to point out that there is a difference between 'data
<em>typing</em>' in Access and 'data <em>formatting</em>' in Excel.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Robert T-A</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><b>From:</b> <a title="kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au" href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au">
Mark KELLY</a> </div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 18, 2011 3:32 PM</div>
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Hi Doug. The point remains that the question does not refer to Excel. <br>
Excel is not a good example of software to think about for this question - it handles things that "look like numbers" quite unusually. I think that's what is confusing people.<br>
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A better case to consider is a file manager's listing of files with names beginning with digits. They are arranged as ASCII text, and appear like '<br>
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12.txt<br>
44.txt<br>
500.txt<br>
6.txt<br>
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Mark<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 18 November 2011 14:33, WRIGHT, Douglas <span dir="ltr">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hi Mark and others,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><u></u><u></u></span> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">In my reading of question 13, I notice that it states “… are entered as text data”<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">This implies that in a database the field type is set to text and in a spreadsheet the cell format is set to text before the data is entered.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">By doing this the correct answer is B (as tested in Excel)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">As generally the default format for a cell will be “general” which is numeric if you enter a number in Excel, this I believe has led to the confusing results.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><u></u><u></u></span> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The question asks to enter as text then sort, not to enter as numeric then change to text then sort<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">B is correct<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Regards<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Doug Wright<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 15 November 2011 3:07 PM</span></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="MsoNormal">Hi Esko</p>
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Changing the cell formatting is not enough. Excel still over-rides it because it sees things that "look like numbers" and sorts it in its own stubborn style.
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You have to <b>force</b> them to be text with the leading apostrophe for Excel to grudgingly allow that the human wants things done your way.<u></u><u></u></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 15 November 2011 11:11, Esko Lossi <<a href="mailto:elossi@chairo.vic.edu.au">elossi@chairo.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">When you change the data type of the numbers to text in Excel, it still gives A as the answer.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I am using Excel 2003.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">ICT/Reporting Coordinator</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 15, 2011 10:42 AM</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="MsoNormal">Try forcing the numbers to be text (put an apostophe in front of the digits) and try it again. Excel has to ask you what you really want to sort as text or as thinks that "look like numbers."<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 15 November 2011 09:37, Esko Lossi <<a href="mailto:elossi@chairo.vic.edu.au">elossi@chairo.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">When I do question 13 (Section A) on a spreadsheet, the answer the spreadsheet gives is A.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 15, 2011 9:29 AM</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">David, I agree with most of your answers for the MC questions, except no.9 I think the answer should be 9B as tactical decisions are more short term and
specific.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Ken Tonkin</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 15 November 2011 8:31 AM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I’m with Mark on this one. Definitely A.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></span><u></u><u></u> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Validation can ensure that I input a date of birth for example that is reasonable, say 12/08/1981 but is it accurate, no!</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Here are my multiple choice answers.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">1 B</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">2 A</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">3 D</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">4 D</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">5 A</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">6 A</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">7 B</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">8 A</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">9 A – not so confident on that one</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">10 A</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">11 C
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">12 C</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">13 B
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">14 B</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">15 D</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">16 C</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">17 B</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">18 B</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">19 C</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">20 C</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Scott<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 15 November 2011 8:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Validation deals with data entry.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Options B, C and D are all testing to ensure data manipulation is correct/accurate etc.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Only option A clearly deals with data entry (i.e. the most correct option)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang="EN-US">thanks</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang="EN-US">Mark Scott</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang="EN-US">Luther College</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Torsello (Mr)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 15 November 2011 8:03 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Dear wiser colleagues</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Can someone help me with MC question 8?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">An effective validation technique is evident when … all answers seem to support the presence of an effective validation technique.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">A – at first glance the answer but is reasonableness the best evidence of validation?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">B- an accurate report suggests accurate input data, doesn’t it?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">C- least likely but again “reasonably”? What does that mean? If data can be sorted is it valid?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">D –calculated files gives correct answers! Is this evidence of GIGO – not garbage in, garbage out, but good in, good out?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Hines<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 14 November 2011 4:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Yeah I just found that, thanks</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Howard, David<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 14 November 2011 3:39 PM<br>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">A – Scope see page 17 of the study design.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Hines<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 14 November 2011 2:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I cannot believe that number question. No one would normally type numbers in as numerals, set the data type to text and then order
from A -> Z.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I doubt anyone would get the answer to that unless they have accidentally done it in the past.
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Because you have entered them as text, the sort will only look at the left most number to order them (just like with normal ones).</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Answer according to Access is B….</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Question 5 in the Multiple Choice? What’s the consensus on that one?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Howard, David<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 14 November 2011 2:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I don’t have the paper in front of me, but after a quick chat to my students, plain to see that they had differing opinions on
the sorting of numbers as text question in the multiple choice.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I’m not marking this year by the way.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 14 November 2011 1:52 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class="MsoNormal">I'm reading the paper now. <br>
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Section A looks pretty free of rabies.<br>
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I have put the gun down after reading the normalisation question... Thank Dog sanity prevailed on that one!<br>
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Damn that ERD question - three marks and they had to draw an entire diagram from scratch! Grrr.<br>
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The 8 mark question appeared, as we expected. And it was approachable.<br>
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Overall, I think I might give the dog a bone.<br>
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