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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>be careful about what you tell students. Contrast
this <A
href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/exams/examcovers/Oct_Nov_2010/2010engESL-cov.pdf">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/exams/examcovers/Oct_Nov_2010/2010engESL-cov.pdf</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>or this <A
href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/exams/examcovers/Oct_Nov_2010/2010eng-cov.pdf">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/exams/examcovers/Oct_Nov_2010/2010eng-cov.pdf</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>with this <A
href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/exams/examcovers/Oct_Nov_2010/2010itapps-cov.pdf">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/exams/examcovers/Oct_Nov_2010/2010itapps-cov.pdf</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Robert T-A</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brighton SC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=shortell@get2me.net href="mailto:shortell@get2me.net">Andrew
Shortell</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=itapps@edulists.com.au
href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing
List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 04, 2010 8:21
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] ESL
students and the exam</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>hi All
<DIV>I believe they are allowed a dictionary. The exams are proof read by
specialist ESL people at VCAA prior to the sitter vetter.</DIV>
<DIV>All answers must be in English since 1991 when someone had to receive a
mark in maths because their answer was correct but in Chinese (Rhombus was the
word in 1990). </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Ring the VCAA ESL people and ask for the answer in an email.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Andrew Shortell</DIV>
<DIV>Wallan SC</DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>On 04/10/2010, at 1:59 PM, Mann, Warrick D wrote:</DIV><BR
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif">Hi
All,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif">I
have been asking this question to, from what I have been able to find out is
that there are no provisions for ESL. All normal rules
apply.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif">Cheers<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif">Warrick<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
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lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, sans-serif">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, sans-serif"><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</A><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><B>On Behalf Of<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></B>Mark KELLY<BR><B>Sent:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Monday, 4 October 2010 12:47
PM<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Year 12 IT
Applications Teachers' Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] ESL students
and the exam<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif"><O:P></O:P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif">Interesting
one. I've not seen this come up before. <SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR><BR>All I know for sure is that
all written answers must be in English.<BR><BR>I've not heard of exams in
foreign translations (especially in IT; imagine the problems translating the
specialist vocabulary in proper VCAA-speak.) Neither have I heard of
human translators being used during exams; the authentication problems would
be monstrous.<BR><BR>I'm sure Paula has all the answers.<O:P></O:P></P>
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<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif">On
4 October 2010 11:06, Hewett, W G <<A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="mailto:Hewett.W.G@edumail.vic.gov.au">Hewett.W.G@edumail.vic.gov.au</A>>
wrote:<O:P></O:P></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif">Hi
all<BR><BR>For the first time, I have an ESL student who is asking what type
of assistance he can have translating the exam paper. His English is
reasonable, but not comprehensive technically. What do others prvide within
the guidelines?<BR><BR><BR>Thanks<BR><BR>Wayne Hewett<BR><BR>ROSEBUD
SECONDARY COLLEGE<BR><BR clear=all><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>Mark Kelly<BR>Information
Systems Manager; Reporting Manager<BR>McKinnon Secondary College<BR>McKinnon
Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia<BR>Direct line / Voicemail: 8520
9085<BR>School Phone +613 8520 9000, Fax +613 9578 9253<BR><A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au"
target=_blank>kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</A><BR>VCE IT Lecture notes:<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
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target=_blank>http://vceit.com</A><BR>Moderator: IT Applications Mailing
List<BR><BR>For no reason, my friend became a square, flat surface with four
legs. I rushed him to hospital. His condition is table.<O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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