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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Brendyn,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We still have IT as a core subject in year 5-8 (content a bit of everything – not really my specialty haven’t taught year 5 for about 5 years). Our year 9,
have a dedicated centre, with lap top (compulsory and a core it subject), students can also elect to get a laptop earlier in year7 I think and we also have a class worth of laptops between each middle school class (Y5-8)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Year 10 has Game Maker (mostly boys), Event Management (mostly girls) and DIYIT (a more hands on class). We are looking at adding a robotics unit in a couple
of year. All our Year 10 subject not just IT must have ICT in them – as they all have laptop we must utilize them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We do not block until students select subjects (late July) and a decision has been made about what subject/classes run. So the other subjects they select generally
don’t clash as we start our blocking from year 12 down.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I don’t think we do anything special, others do far more creative and cutting edge stuff then we do. We are just happy we have been able to weather the decline
in numbers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Claudia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:maroon">Claudia Graham</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brendyn Hancock<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 13 September 2010 8:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] 2011 numbers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Claudia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Interesting comments. Can you give the list an overview of your ICT class structure years 7-12? Are your y10 classes all electives?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#76923C">Brendyn Hancock<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Claudia Graham<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 12 September 2010 1:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List; Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 IT Apps] 2011 numbers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I always find this an interesting discussion at this time of year.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We have since 2000 had fairly consistent numbers, so over three different study designs we have had one full class of IPM/ITA of about 20-25, and an SD class
of 8-14. The numbers are similar next year with ITA just slipping over the 25 mark to allow us to have two classes. (our Year 11-12 cohort is about 360) Year 11 and Year 10 have solid numbers, with year 10 having 4-6 semester electives running most years.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We have not been able to sustain any VET classes (we tend to go against the trend in this area), we had it one 2 year cycle a couple of years back.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And I know we often blame the study design but there are so many factors that impact on students decisions to choose a subject. As VCE Coordinator I would say,
in general, the exact content of a course has limited influence over selection, other than having to have a general interest in that subject area. Peer group, prerequisites, and certainly not least the teachers they have had as well as the teachers expected
to teach the subject have ever increasing influence. Most kids I spoke to about ITA/SD hadn’t even realised there were any changes for next year, because they had made the selection on what a teacher said or did and what their friend who is doing it this year
said etc. Not sure what we teach is an important as how we teach it. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Claudia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">PS: my 2 cents because I had 5 minute free on a weekend while in the middle of the last SD SAC of the year!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:maroon">Claudia Graham</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:maroon">VCE Coordinator</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:maroon">Overnewton College</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kent Beveridge<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 12 September 2010 10:38 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 IT Apps] ITApps 2011?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Another slightly different perspective on this topic,....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">IFF statistical analysis is to reveal anything and as stats are a lot to do with sampling, population sizes and so on(I am not a statistician by the way...) then
howcome the 'random audits' conducted by the body overseeing our course seems to 'randomly' pick same schools for audit regularly(me now 4 years in a row!) and add to that then, why did I bother to organize a partnership arrangement with other schools. Some
things dont make sense and these are but two of them to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Also, as far as results go, I've done quite nicely the last 2 years thanks very much with my small cohort. BUT, seems I.T.Apps may be dead here now..not sure
but dont think anyone picked it for '11.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Got Certs 2 & 3 running instead now. Also might convert the middle school I.T. to programming and game development using Actionscript and similar...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#3366FF">ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]
on behalf of Roland Gesthuizen [rgesthuizen@gmail.com]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 11 September 2010 10:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] McKinnon classes 2011</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black">Three years ago, my VCE IT classes got shouldered with the Arts block so the my students are generally drawn from Maths-Science to Business Studies-Arts. Most have an ESL background
and my most 'accademic' IT student has only been in Australia for a couple of years and struggles with many basic computing ideas. I am still smouldering by the reviewer who openly ticked me off for a decline in IT results. Explaining to a bean-counter about
small sample sizes, teaching for all and shifting cohort groups doesnt cut much cloth when they wave their moderation wand.<br>
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Oddly enough, I have more girls in my year 12 class than boys. I put this to the splendid Go-Girls-Gor-For IT seminar we ran for the year 10s a couple of years ago. My guess is that if I hadn't done this, we would also be down to just one class. The pictures
speak for themselves and I believe they are running the event again.<br>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/plakboek/sets/72157624373556087/" target="_blank">
http://www.flickr.com/photos/plakboek/sets/72157624373556087/</a><br>
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Lock and load .. <br>
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Regards Roland<br>
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PS: My biggest challenge is enthusing kids to return to school / class following the term break for revision and sticking it out. For the past couple of years, I sit outside the examination room to fire off a threatening glare for anybody that even just dates
to think about leaving early (sigh) .. some later admit that the thought of a grumpy Mr G lurking outside keeps them indoors.<br>
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PSS: Increasingly like the idea of switching to offering SD instead next year.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Many of our kids are taking classes with fancy names and little content. Many of them are going for classes that require less of them. Many of the VCE
kids are going to VCAL/VET.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Lots are going to more social based content classes. Environmental Studies. Social Justice studies. Art.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">My observation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="color:black">Brendyn Hancock</span></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i><span style="color:black">ICT Manager</span></i><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Subject:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] McKinnon classes 2011
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Do you know where they're going instead?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">On 10 September 2010 09:46, Brendyn Hancock <<a href="mailto:BHancock@nagle.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">BHancock@nagle.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Was just about to post this same discussion. We seem to be all re-visiting this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Nagle has an enrolment of 950. 2011 classes have just been drafted. Unit 1-2=8 students, Unit 3-4=1 student<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Interesting to note we can only raise 2 classes of 25 student for a term elective of gamemaker in Y10 as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Trends are trending away from us..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="color:black">Brendyn Hancock</span></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i><span style="color:black">ICT Manager</span></i><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i><span style="color:black">PO Box 507</span></i><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i><span style="color:black">p 03 5152 6122 ext954</span></i><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i><span style="color:black">f 03 5152 6220</span></i><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 10 September 2010 9:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List; Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 IT Apps] McKinnon classes 2011<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">It's really odd!
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ITA, which has run continuously <b>forever</b> with good numbers has barely scraped a class together for next year by combining year elevens and twelves into one small ITA class.<br>
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SD, which has only run every 3 or so years (with a small cohort when it did run), is nearly over-subscribed.<br>
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There don't seem to be any clear local causes for such a great change of attitude (e.g. changes of teachers or big changes in middle-years IT offerings) so I can only put it down to either something in the water, or the changes to the study design.<br>
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To be fair, I haven't heard kids explicitly blaming the ITA study design, and for some reason they seem dead keen on programming in our year 10 Info Systems elective. My year 11 IT classes have been dead quiet for 2 weeks with the kids busily coding in VB6.
Last year I had to beat them with chairs to finish the VB material... this year I can sit up the front folding paper aeroplanes and clipping my toenails while they beaver away and sort out problems within their own ranks.<br>
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Odd!<br clear="all">
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-- <br>
Mark Kelly<br>
Information Systems Manager; Reporting Manager<br>
McKinnon Secondary College<br>
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia<br>
Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085<br>
School Phone +613 8520 9000, Fax +613 9578 9253<br>
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McKinnon Secondary College<br>
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School Phone +613 8520 9000, Fax +613 9578 9253<br>
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