<html><head><base href="x-msg://1/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">+2 or 3 or what ever we are up to<div>I was the subject of some terse emails on another list when I pointed out that the (early bird) cost of $600 for a three day conference was just a bit over my $100 yearly pd budget.</div><div>Like Kent I was initially "you beaut" - then choked at the price. Yes the cost can be rationalised, venues, food, etc etc</div><div>But at the end of the day - at my last school, I got $100 per year for PD.</div><div>I cannot afford to fund it myself with a young family and being the sole breadwinner at the moment.</div><div>Looks like I again resort to a solitary web quest to advance my skills. :(</div><div>Back to Google.</div><div>Cameron</div><div><br><div><div>On 07/02/2010, at 12:14 PM, Mann, Warrick D wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><div dir="ltr" id="idOWAReplyText24580"><div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" size="2" face="Arial">Hi Kent,</font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div><div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial">I fully support your email. I have a budget of $1000. Last year I bought the site licence for the book, any discount for those who already have it?</font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div><div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial">Cheers</font></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial">Warrick</font></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><hr tabindex="-1"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>on behalf of Kent Beveridge<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sun 7/02/2010 9:51 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Learn PHP and MySQL to make useful websitesand support your students<br></font><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family: Tahoma; direction: ltr; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; "><div>Hang on a mo..</div><div>Am I to understand this 'PD' is $600 for ONE DAY?(add the price of a replacement teacher for a day too for participants)</div><div> </div><div>'scuse me while I pick myself up off the floor...</div><div> </div><div>(make sure we remember to add accomodation/meal/travel costs for country folk!)</div><div> </div><div>YEP, I'm back on my price-horse again for 2010.</div><div> </div><div>Hey Jo, can you cast your mind back to comments I made during our last phone call and you will know what I am going on about.</div><div>Looks like I have to miss out on another potentially useful PD as again, have been priced way out of the ball park!!!(the I.T budget up here aint that big and nor is my wage - thats almost my take home pay for a week - can we start running PD's at an affordable and reasonable price pleeeez??)</div><div> </div><div>Lets put something in as a parallel...</div><div>A full Cert IV qualification can be obtained for $1500 and takes an average of 3-5 months to complete.</div><div> </div><div>YEP I know this will upset some readers on this list. Apologies in advance for those such offended!</div><div>But how are teachers like myself going to get these skills other than self teaching if we simply cant afford to these things. Perhaps VITTA should look at the so called 'education revolution' and source funding to reduce costs of hosting these events to make them more affordable for 'single day PD's '.</div><div> </div><div>I am all for offering my students programming at Year 12 but if this is the cost of training via our subject organisation then many are going to wonder if the costs of upskilling for the job are worth it. Unfortunately, the students 'may' be the victims of this cost explosion. </div><div>For what its worth, I wish to introduce Software Devel here at our school in either 2011 or 2012. I wish to provide my upcoming students every opportunity but costs like this make it really a challenge!</div><div> </div><div>I am happy to take VITTA phone calls to discuss this issue and possible remedies(but dont offer a time payment plan as that doesnt reduce the cost).</div><div> </div><div>Respectfully closing off..</div><div>Kent.</div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; "><hr tabindex="-1"><div id="divRpF862911" style="direction: ltr; "><font color="#000000" size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] on behalf of Jo McLeay [jo@vitta.org.au]<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, 5 February 2010 4:51 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">itapps@edulists.com.au</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Year 12 IT Apps] Learn PHP and MySQL to make useful websites and support your students<br></font><br></div><div></div><div><div style="font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10pt; "><div style="font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10pt; "><br><br><br><div style="font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10pt; "><span style="font-weight: bold; ">PHP and MySQ</span><br><div style="font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10pt; "><div style="font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10pt; "><div style="font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10pt; "><b><br>Who is this for?</b><br><ul><li>All teachers who want to update their programming skills to make dynamic websites</li><li>Teachers of years 8 to 12 VCE & VET teachers, including at Year 11 for Database Programming</li><li>teachers who are interested in delivering PHP and MySQL</li><li>teachers of VCE Software Development</li><li>The day is tailored to fit the beginner, intermediate or advanced person</li></ul><b>The benefits of PHP and MySQL include:</b><br><ul><li>PHP is one of the approved programming languages in Software Development</li><li>PHP can be used to program mobile devices</li><li>PHP and MySQL are free and open source</li></ul><b>What is included?</b><br><ul><li>A copy of Kevork’s new book "PHP and MySQL for standard and mobile devices"</li><li>software installation</li><li>sample outcomes for teachers who are interested in delivering PHP and MySQL</li><li>notes and exercises ready for participants at any proficiency level.</li><li>refreshments are supplied.</li></ul><b>What should I bring?</b><br><ul><li>Bring your laptop</li></ul>Additional dates are:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-weight: bold; ">2nd March, 9th March, 16th March and 23rd March</span>. Sessions go from<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-weight: bold; ">4.30 to 6.30 pm</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>on each day.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><br><br></b><br><br><table class="events_table" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font-weight: bold; "><br></td><td><br></td></tr><tr><td style="font-weight: bold; ">Registrations Open:</td><td>today</td></tr><tr><td style="font-weight: bold; ">Registrations Close:</td><td> 25th Feb 2010</td></tr><tr><td style="font-weight: bold; ">Price:</td><td> VITTA members $<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>600 (Inc. GST) non-members $750.00 (Inc. 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