Beyond boredom, class numbers, sequence and timetable blocking .. would anything stop a year 11 student who did ITA unit 3 and 4 from doing IT Unit 1 and 2 in year 12? <br><br>Just thinking outside the box (cube, sphere or bucket) ..
<br><br>Regards Roland<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 30/11/2007, <b class="gmail_sendername">Robert Hind</b> <<a href="mailto:robert@yinnar.com">robert@yinnar.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div><font face="Arial">This obviously changes over time as the universities,
through VTAC, change their requirements and as the VCE changes. The VICTER 2008
manual, the one current for students in year 12 this year states that (pages 7
and 8):<font face="Humanist521BT-RomanCondensed">
<p align="left">"no more that two IT studies. . . <font face="Humanist521BT-RomanCondensed">can be included in the Primary Four. . . .
<font face="Humanist521BT-BoldCondensed">IT studies include: </font><font face="Humanist521BT-RomanCondensed">VCE Information Systems; VCE Information
Processing and Management; and VCE VET Information Technology." So it would seem
that students doing both this year have been able to count both towards their
ENTER and this seems to continue into the future - at least up to
2010.</font></font></p>
<p align="left"><font face="Humanist521BT-RomanCondensed"><font face="Humanist521BT-RomanCondensed">Of course this VICTER was written before ITA
and SOD started as the VICTER is written for year 10 students planning their
courses, ie for this year's year 12s the VICTER 2008 was written in
2005.</font></font></p>
<p align="left"><font face="Humanist521BT-RomanCondensed"><font face="Humanist521BT-RomanCondensed">Robert Hind (Semi-retired)<br>Ex Traralgon and
Ashwood<br></font></font></p></font></font><font face="Humanist521BT-RomanCondensed">
<p align="left"> </p></font></div><div><span class="e" id="q_1168f4616523d100_1">
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<b>From:</b>
<a title="DRADR@whc.vic.edu.au" href="mailto:DRADR@whc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">DRADR@whc.vic.edu.au</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title="itapps@edulists.com.au" href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
itapps@edulists.com.au</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 30, 2007 2:59
PM</div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re:
Teaching ITA to Yr 11s</div>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Debra</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">I
don't believe this is correct. The Victer 2010 publication (available from the
Career's teacher) page 8 indicates that you can use either IPM or
ITA and Info Systems or Software Development in your ENTER
calculations.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Ray
Drady</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Western Heights College</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left" lang="en-us"><font face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>McDonald, Debra
A1<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 30 November 2007 1:59<br><b>To:</b> Year 12 IT
Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Year 12 IT Apps]
Re: Teaching ITA to Yr 11s<br><br></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font color="#000080" face="Lucida Calligraphy" size="2">here is
the problem with that.... the students can only use the score from either
ITA or SOD to assist them in getting into the university as I had a student
who tried both and it was rejected...</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font color="#000080" face="Lucida Calligraphy" size="2">hope yours
had better luck.</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font color="#000080" face="Lucida Calligraphy" size="2">cheers</font></div>
<div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000"><span lang="EN-AU"><font color="#800000"><font color="#000000"><span lang="EN-AU"><font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><font size="2"><font color="#800000">Debra
M<sup>c</sup>Donald</font></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></div></div>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> on
behalf of Rattan, Kushum L<br><b>Sent:</b> Fri 30/11/07 1:29
PM<br><b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing
List<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: Teaching ITA to Yr
11s<br></font><br></div>
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<p><font size="2">I offered IPM(ITA) in one year and Info Systems(SOD) in the
second to<br>overcome this problem.<br>Kushum Rattan<br>IT
Co-ordinator<br>Gisborne Secondary College<br>Phone: (03) 5428
3691<br>-----Original Message-----<br>From:
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mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
On Behalf Of Meadows, Roslyn M<br>Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 12:00
PM<br>To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>Subject: RE:
[Year 12 IT Apps] Re: Teaching ITA to Yr 11s<br><br>Get them doing a first
year uni IT subject???<br><br><br><br>Roslyn Meadows<br>ICT
Coordinator<br>Head of Assessment and Reporting<br>Bentleigh Secondary
College | 9579 1044 | 0412 614 062<br><br>Please consider the environment
before printing this email<br><br><br><br>-----Original
Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a><br>[<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
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On Behalf Of Russell Edwards<br>Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 11:37
AM<br>To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>Subject: Re:
[Year 12 IT Apps] Re: Teaching ITA to Yr 11s<br><br><br>On 30/11/2007, at
10:53 AM, Meadows, Roslyn M wrote:<br>> I think what Kent and Roland mean
is that you just enrol your Year <br>> 11's<br>> into the 3/4
unit, so they do ITApps SAC's and the exam, and at the <br>>
end<br>> of the year they have one year 12 subject up their
sleeve.<br><br>Oops, my mistake! That sounds much more sensible, although
what do you <br>do with the kids who want to do 2 years of
IT?<br><br>Russell Edwards<br>Whittlesea Secondary
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