<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Thanks for sharing , Frank.<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV>Graham Gales</DIV><DIV>Bright P-12 College</DIV><DIV>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - </DIV><DIV>ITA, Science and Maths Teacher</DIV><DIV>Timetabler/ Daily Organiser</DIV><DIV>Gifted & Talented Co-ordinator</DIV><DIV>Heir apparent to the Chief Cook and BottleWasher</DIV><DIV>Understudy to the general Dogsbody</DIV><DIV><BR><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN> </DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On 24/08/2007, at 9:28 AM, Russo, Frank R wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region"> <O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="Street"> <O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="address"> <O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"> <O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceType"> <O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceName"> <O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"> <O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"> <DIV class="Section1"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Hi Jenna <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">My plan is to work thru Chp 7: Storage, Comm and disposal of data & info and Chp 8 Security Measures for IT Apps (2<SUP>nd</SUP> Ed).<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Along with some video about how the internet works from the VITTA Suppport CD as well as some of the task sheets from the same.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I will be giving them a test for Outcome 2 (attached)<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Hope this helps<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Frank<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Frank Russo</SPAN></FONT><FONT color="navy"><SPAN style="color:navy"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">ICT ~ Teaching & Learning</SPAN></FONT><FONT color="navy"><SPAN style="color:navy"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><ST1:PLACENAME w:st="on"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:navy">Monterey</SPAN></FONT></ST1:PLACENAME><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> <ST1:PLACENAME w:st="on">Secondary</ST1:PLACENAME> <ST1:PLACETYPE w:st="on">College</ST1:PLACETYPE></SPAN></FONT></ST1:PLACE><O:P></O:P></P> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"> <HR size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><B><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [<A href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>] <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Jenna Hubbard<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, 24 August 2007 8:17 AM<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">itapps@edulists.com.au</A><BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Year 12 IT Apps] Final outcome</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P> </DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <DIV><P><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi everyone, <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">Does anyone have any interesting lessons to prepare the students for their final outcome, or ideas for a lesson?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">Jenna<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="border:none;border-left:solid #A0C6E5 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <DIV class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Tahoma"> <HR size="1" width="100%" noshade="" color="#a0c6e5" align="center"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma">From: <I><SPAN style="font-style:italic">"Roland Gesthuizen" <<A href="mailto:rgesthuizen@gmail.com">rgesthuizen@gmail.com</A>></SPAN></I><BR> Reply-To: <I><SPAN style="font-style:italic">"<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List</ST1:PERSONNAME>"<<A href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">itapps@edulists.com.au</A>></SPAN></I><BR> To: <I><SPAN style="font-style:italic">"<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List</ST1:PERSONNAME>" <<A href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">itapps@edulists.com.au</A>></SPAN></I><BR> Subject: <I><SPAN style="font-style:italic">Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] FW: Ultranet</SPAN></I><BR> Date: <I><SPAN style="font-style:italic">Fri, 24 Aug 2007 00:34:32 +1000</SPAN></I><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> Say Andrew, I am surrounded on three sides at my school by huge <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma">electrical pylons (its like a scene out of The Castle) and an EduPASS <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma">WAP in my office. I think that I need to start wearing a protective <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma">beanie made from aluminum foil. Will this protect me? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><A href="http://zapatopi.net/afdb/">http://zapatopi.net/afdb/</A><BR> <BR> Kevork is spot on .. although it isn't so much clawing back control as tearing up what schools have done. I remember a time when we built our network s with no department guidance, support or vision. At least the Uni up the road was a good source of inspiration. Is my world going upside down with things being sold off or ceded to federal or state bodies? Hospitals are next I see. Universities? Are schools next? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> <BR> I would be very unhappy if I was told to use any one Network OS compared to the hybrid network that has suited and grown into the needs of my school. The technicians I have spoken have similarly expressed concerns about this shift. What might benefit and support a small, regional primary school has considerably less merit for larger secondary school. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> <BR> I am no fan of major, disruptive changes that shuffle power upwards to only deliver a hypothetical and incremental improvement. I shudder to think of the experience of one fab list member who has had enough trouble to just get their ITA class software working ... extrapolated to the entire state. Brrrrrr <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Tahoma"><BR> <BR> Regards Roland<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN class="gmailquote"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Tahoma">On 21/08/07, <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Kevork Krozian</SPAN></B> <<A href="mailto:Kroset@novell1.fhc.vic.edu.au">Kroset@novell1.fhc.vic.edu.au</A>> wrote:</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size: 8.5pt;font-family:Tahoma"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma">Dear Folks,<BR> <BR> Apparently the first stage of clawing back control of school IT infrastructures is the Ultranet project. This will centralise all data as far as who, when and what in all IT activities in a school. Updates will be pushed out as in edupass. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> Stage 2 is to mandate server hardware and NOS's ( Network Operating Systems ).<BR> Stage 3 is to mandate desktop hardware and OS's.<BR> <BR> I don't know about everyone else but I wouldn't feel too happy if I was told I had to use one Network OS as opposed to another. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> <BR> Having spoken to a number of technicians this is their opinion , so read in all the requisite disclaimers.<BR> <BR> As an aside apparently a parents' group has requested that edupass be shut down pending a full investigation of the health implications of the radio waves used in the wireless system on the health of their children , students and teachers. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> If you don't believe me read it in the Age here <A href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/classroom-wireless-could-be-harmful-parents/2007/08/16/1186857682342.html">http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/classroom-wireless-could-be-harmful-parents/2007/08/16/1186857682342.html <FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family: " times="" new="" roman""=""><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"> from last Friday.<BR> <BR> <BR> Take Care<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Kevork Krozian<BR> IT Manager , <ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><ST1:PLACETYPE w:st="on">Forest</ST1:PLACETYPE> <ST1:PLACETYPE w:st="on">Hill</ST1:PLACETYPE> <ST1:PLACETYPE w:st="on">College</ST1:PLACETYPE></ST1:PLACE><BR> <A href="mailto:k.krozian@fhc.vic.edu.au">k.krozian@fhc.vic.edu.au</A><BR> <A href="http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au/"><O:P></O:P></A></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN class="MsoHyperlink"><U><FONT size="1" color="blue" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Tahoma"><A href="http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au/">http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au</A></SPAN></FONT></U></SPAN><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Tahoma"><BR> <ST1:CITY w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">Mobile</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY>: <U1:SPAN onmouseup="javascript:skype_tb_imgOnOff(this,1,'0',true,16,'');return skype_tb_stopEvents();" class="skype_tb_injection" oncontextmenu="javascript:skype_tb_SwitchDrop(this,'0','sms=1');return skype_tb_stopEvents();" onmousedown="javascript:skype_tb_imgOnOff(this,2,'0',true,16,'');return skype_tb_stopEvents();" id="softomate_highlight_0" onmouseover="javascript:skype_tb_imgOnOff(this,1,'0',true,16,'');" title="Call this phone number in Australia with Skype: +61419356034" onclick="javascript:doRunCMD('call','0',null,0);return skype_tb_stopEvents();" onmouseout="javascript:skype_tb_imgOnOff(this,0,'0',true,16,'');" durex="523" context="0419 356 034"><U1:SPAN onmouseup="javascript:doSkypeFlag(this,'0',1,1,16);return skype_tb_stopEvents();" class="skype_tb_imgA" onmousedown="javascript:doSkypeFlag(this,'0',2,1,16);return skype_tb_stopEvents();" id="skype_tb_droppart_0" onmouseover="javascript:doSkype! 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This is a cruel<BR> > libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans<BR> > themselves. Albert Einstein<BR> ><BR> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> > *From:* <A href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</A><BR> > [mailto:<A href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Grimshaw <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> > *Sent:* Monday, 20 August 2007 3:27 PM<BR> > *To:* <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List</ST1:PERSONNAME><BR> > *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] FW: Ultranet<BR> ><BR> > Am i silly to assume that we will be able run our moodels as well as the <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> > ultranet? - i cant think of any reason why we couldn't<BR> ><BR> > andrew grimshaw<BR> > colac college<BR> ><BR> > ----- Original Message -----<BR> > *From:* Roland Gesthuizen <mailto:<A href="mailto:rgesthuizen@gmail.com"> <FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:" times="" new="" roman""=""><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN class="MsoHyperlink"><U><FONT size="1" color="blue" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Tahoma"><A href="mailto:rgesthuizen@gmail.com">rgesthuizen@gmail.com</A></SPAN></FONT></U></SPAN><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Tahoma">><BR> > *Newsgroups:* local.it.itapps<BR> > *To:* <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List</ST1:PERSONNAME><BR> > <mailto:<A href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">itapps@edulists.com.au <O:P></O:P></A></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma">><BR> > *Sent:* Monday, August 20, 2007 1:37 PM<BR> > *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] FW: Ultranet<BR> ><BR> > Hmm, they didn't answer the $M60 question asked.<BR> ><BR> > Oddly enough, they invited Laurie to download the tender. Cute :-) </SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> ><BR> > It would be an interesting to post a tender response.<BR> ><BR> > A survey is nice, but I wonder at the depth and level of<BR> > consultation with the subject associations and professional groups <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> > already doing cool activities with tools such as Moodle. This is<BR> > about teaching and learning, not just worksheets, software and<BR> > bandwidth. For now, we we can only speculate at the deeper <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> > educational pedagogy and research that underpins this centralist<BR> > model for networked service delivery. Anybody who can predict the<BR> > world beyond 2017 is a fool. I'm certainly not holding my breath. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> ><BR> > It is really great to see ALL the different learning tools we are<BR> > all using and engaged by the exciting things that are happening.<BR> > Only last week, a new teacher was posted here a swag of ideas from <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> > MS Sharepoint users. Thats cool! There is a very real strength in<BR> > our current diversity of tools, teaching styles and innovative<BR> > solutions, many in spite of poor funding or administrative hurdles. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> > The VITTA annual conference is a celebration of these success<BR> > stories by a community of practicing educators.<BR> ><BR> > Should we be concerned about an all embracing, centralist model for <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> > networked service delivery for Victorian state schools? I suppose we<BR> > could be proactive and engage with the tender process .. or keep on<BR> > doing the fun stuff that engages and teaches our students :-) <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> ><BR> > Regards Roland<BR> ><BR> > On 20/08/07, *Laurie Savage* <<A href="mailto:sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au">sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au</A><BR> > <mailto:<A href="mailto:sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au">sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au <FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family: " times="" new="" roman""=""><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma">>> wrote:<BR> ><BR> > I emailed the Ultranet people, here is their reply.<BR> ><BR> > Laurie<BR> ><BR> > -----Original Message-----<BR> > From: Quach, Tam T [mailto: </SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><A href="mailto:quach.tam.t@edumail.vic.gov.au">quach.tam.t@edumail.vic.gov.au</A><BR> > <mailto:<A href="mailto:quach.tam.t@edumail.vic.gov.au">quach.tam.t@edumail.vic.gov.au</A>>] On Behalf Of<BR> > Ultranet <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> > Sent: Monday, 20 August 2007 9:28 AM<BR> > To: <A href="mailto:sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au">sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au</A> <mailto:<A href="mailto:sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au">sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au</A>><BR> > Subject: RE: Ultranet <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> ><BR> > Hi Laurie<BR> ><BR> > Thank you for your enquiry of 17 August 2007 regarding the<BR> > Ultranet.<BR> ><BR> > The Department of Education is aware that some schools are using <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> > learning<BR> > management systems such as Moodle. Please refer to section<BR> > 8.1.20 of the<BR> > Request for Tender specifications below:<BR> ><BR> > 8.1.20 Learning Management Systems <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> > A few Victorian government schools have made investments in<BR> > third party<BR> > learning management solutions. Solutions include (but are not<BR> > limited to)<BR> > Edumate, My Classes, Scholaris, Studywiz, Moodle, Blackboard and <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> > other<BR> > custom developed intranet solutions. The solutions are<BR> > implemented within<BR> > schools' curriculum network environment. DoE is in the process<BR> > of conducting <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> > an extensive survey of existing applications in use at schools<BR> > to assist in<BR> > formulating the data conversion and change management strategies.<BR> ><BR> > Learning management systems, however, are only one component of the <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> > Ultranet. The other components include:<BR> ><BR> > . Strategy<BR> > . Learning and Teaching Management<BR> > . Administration<BR> > . Collaboration<BR> > . Student Information <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> > . Staff Information<BR> > . School Information<BR> > . Reporting<BR> > . Productivity Tools<BR> > . Architecture<BR> > . Security<BR> > . Standards <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> > . Change Management<BR> > . Development and Implementation<BR> > . Service Hosting, Operational Support and Maintenance<BR> ><BR> > The Ultranet Request for Tender was released publicly on 1 <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> > August 2007. You<BR> > can the Ultranet RFT from the Victorian Government Tenders web<BR> > site at<BR> > <A href="http://www.tenders.vic.gov.au/">www.tenders.vic.gov.au</A> < <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><A href="http://www.tenders.vic.gov.au/">http://www.tenders.vic.gov.au</A>>. Search<BR> > for 'Ultranet'. You will need to register on<BR> > the site in order to download the document.<BR> > <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> > I hope this answers your question.<BR> ><BR> > Regards<BR> > Tam Quach<BR> ><BR> > -----Original Message-----<BR> > From: Laurie Savage [mailto:<A href="mailto:sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au"> <FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:" times="" new="" roman""=""><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN class="MsoHyperlink"><U><FONT size="1" color="blue" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Tahoma"><A href="mailto:sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au">sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au</A></SPAN></FONT></U></SPAN><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Tahoma"><BR> > <mailto:<A href="mailto:sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au">sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au</A>>]<BR> > Sent: Friday, 17 August 2007 3:35 PM<BR> > To: Ultranet<BR> > Subject: Ultranet </SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> ><BR> > We are already using a colloborative, intuitive e-learning<BR> > system that is<BR> > under constant development and improvement. We use it for VELS<BR> > and VCE<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma">> cources. It is free, open source and can be tailored to local<BR> > needs. It is<BR> > written in PHP and uses a free backend database. It is called<BR> > Moodle. Does<BR> > the state need to spend $M60 to implement an untried alternative? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Tahoma"><BR> ><BR> > Laurie Savage<BR> > ICT/Comm. Tech. 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