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color=#0000ff size=2>I suppose there's nothing to stop a consortium of Moodlers
submitiing a tender!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Roland
Gesthuizen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 20 August 2007 1:38 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12
IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps]
FW: Ultranet<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Hmm, they didn't answer the $M60 question asked. <BR><BR>Oddly
enough, they invited Laurie to download the tender. Cute :-)<BR><BR>It would be
an interesting to post a tender response.<BR><BR>A survey is nice, but I wonder
at the depth and level of consultation with the subject associations and
professional groups already doing cool activities with tools such as Moodle.
This is about teaching and learning, not just worksheets, software and
bandwidth. For now, we we can only speculate at the deeper educational pedagogy
and research that underpins this centralist model for networked service
delivery. Anybody who can predict the world beyond 2017 is a fool. I'm certainly
not holding my breath.<BR><BR>It is really great to see ALL the different
learning tools we are all using and engaged by the exciting things that are
happening. Only last week, a new teacher was posted here a swag of ideas from MS
Sharepoint users. Thats cool! There is a very real strength in our current
diversity of tools, teaching styles and innovative solutions, many in spite of
poor funding or administrative hurdles. The VITTA annual conference is a
celebration of these success stories by a community of practicing educators.
<BR><BR>Should we be concerned about an all embracing, centralist model for
networked service delivery for Victorian state schools? I suppose we could be
proactive and engage with the tender process .. or keep on doing the fun stuff
that engages and teaches our students :-) <BR><BR>Regards Roland<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 20/08/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Laurie
Savage</B> <<A href="mailto:sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au">sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">I
emailed the Ultranet people, here is their
reply.<BR><BR>Laurie<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Quach, Tam T
[mailto:<A
href="mailto:quach.tam.t@edumail.vic.gov.au">quach.tam.t@edumail.vic.gov.au</A>]
On Behalf Of <BR>Ultranet<BR>Sent: Monday, 20 August 2007 9:28 AM<BR>To: <A
href="mailto:sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au">sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au</A><BR>Subject: RE:
Ultranet<BR><BR>Hi Laurie<BR><BR>Thank you for your enquiry of 17 August 2007
regarding the Ultranet. <BR><BR>The Department of Education is aware that some
schools are using learning<BR>management systems such as
Moodle. Please refer to section 8.1.20 of the<BR>Request for Tender
specifications below:<BR><BR>8.1.20 Learning Management Systems <BR>A few
Victorian government schools have made investments in third party<BR>learning
management solutions. Solutions include (but are not limited to)<BR>Edumate,
My Classes, Scholaris, Studywiz, Moodle, Blackboard and other <BR>custom
developed intranet solutions. The solutions are implemented
within<BR>schools' curriculum network environment. DoE is in the process of
conducting<BR>an extensive survey of existing applications in use at schools
to assist in <BR>formulating the data conversion and change management
strategies.<BR><BR>Learning management systems, however, are only one
component of the<BR>Ultranet. The other components
include:<BR><BR>. Strategy<BR>. Learning and Teaching Management <BR>.
Administration<BR>. Collaboration<BR>. Student Information<BR>. Staff
Information<BR>. School Information<BR>. Reporting<BR>. Productivity
Tools<BR>. Architecture<BR>. Security<BR>. Standards<BR>. Change
Management<BR>. Development and Implementation<BR>. Service Hosting,
Operational Support and Maintenance<BR><BR>The Ultranet Request for Tender was
released publicly on 1 August 2007. You<BR>can the Ultranet RFT
from the Victorian Government Tenders web site at <BR><A
href="http://www.tenders.vic.gov.au">www.tenders.vic.gov.au</A>. Search
for 'Ultranet'. You will need to register on<BR>the site in order to download
the document.<BR><BR>I hope this answers your question. <BR><BR>Regards<BR>Tam
Quach<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Laurie Savage [mailto:<A
href="mailto:sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au">sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au</A>]<BR>Sent: Friday, 17
August 2007 3:35 PM<BR>To: Ultranet<BR>Subject: Ultranet <BR><BR>We are
already using a colloborative, intuitive e-learning system that is<BR>under
constant development and improvement. We use it for VELS and VCE<BR>cources.
It is free, open source and can be tailored to local needs. It is <BR>written
in PHP and uses a free backend database. It is called Moodle. Does<BR>the
state need to spend $M60 to implement an untried alternative?<BR><BR>Laurie
Savage<BR>ICT/Comm. Tech. Teacher,<BR>Pascoe Vale Girls College
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