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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Where is Kevork ? We need you to inject a
dose of your reasonableness and quash the thread<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> used all caps, ok, Mark got upset, ok, Mark emailed <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kent</st1:place></st1:country-region> &#8211;
forgot to do it off list, ok<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Is there any need for heaps of emails?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There is no-one on this list who does not
respect the effort put in by everyone who actually sends an email to the list,
let alone contributes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Mark and Keith would have to be the most
prolific contributors.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I know when I used to teach the subject
that I used a lot of their ideas and was very grateful.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Perhaps we all realize that and we can let
the matter drop.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>No doubt Kent and Mark can communicate off
the list and the rest of us do not really need to be involved. If you want to
send Mark an email of support then do it off the list. Personalised messages
are always nicer anyway.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Kent Beveridge<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 25 July 2007 1:29
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Year 12 IT Applications
Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 IT Apps]
Excel resource</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>The 'just posted' comment from Bill
Turner is better at expressing the point I was making so please, the rest of
you, POINT MADE and I feel&nbsp;lousy about it already so enough. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I do agree that mark does a ship load of good in this
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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color=blue><span lang=EN-AU style='color:blue;font-style:italic'>,</span></font></i><font
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Catholic Sec. College</span></font></i><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
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lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;font-style:italic'>email.. <a
href="mailto:kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au">kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au</a></span></font></i><font
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Eggs, one you make and one you break!&nbsp; A bit like promises.....</span></font></i><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Mark Kelly<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wed 7/25/2007 12:43 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Year 12 IT Applications
Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps]
Excel resource</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hi Bill.<br>
<br>
My point was that I have NO commercial interest in Greg Bowden's<br>
resources.&nbsp; I just think it's a jolly good teaching tool.<br>
<br>
And the stuff in which I _do_ have a commercial interest I would never<br>
flog in this venue.<br>
<br>
Bill Turner wrote:<br>
&gt; Mark,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; You contribute a MAMMOTH amount of free material to this forum, especially<br>
&gt; your IT pages at McKinnon. We are all greatly indebted to you.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; You have every right to produce a commercial product as well. Every worker<br>
&gt; deserves his wages.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Bill<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [<a
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]<br>
&gt; On Behalf Of Mark Kelly<br>
&gt; Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2007 11:49 AM<br>
&gt; To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Excel resource<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sorry?&nbsp; I get no 'cut'.&nbsp; And I'm baffled how I have offended you
by<br>
&gt; daring to suggest a resource.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Did this thread start with the question &quot;Where are some FREE Excel<br>
&gt; resources?&quot;&nbsp; If not, when did it become outrageous to suggest a<br>
&gt; commercial offering?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; And what is the shouting about &quot;IT'S A BOOK&quot;?&nbsp; Does that
somehow invest<br>
&gt; the contents with some extra value?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; And as for the implication that I'm cold-hearted for ignoring the<br>
&gt; drought, I find it illogical and offensive.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Kent Beveridge wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; Hey Mark, whats your cut? The other resources we have provided are
free<br>
&gt; and not all of us have the dosh to go buying lots of you beaut resources!
I<br>
&gt; and my budget certainly dont! The drought DID reach the country schools
you<br>
&gt; know.<br>
&gt;&gt; Except <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Adrian</st1:place></st1:City>'s
book, but we all know ITS A BOOK. I havent purchased it<br>
&gt; but am considering it for next year, similarly, will consider now this
excel<br>
&gt; resource.<br>
&gt;&gt; KB.<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;<br>
&gt;&gt; Kent Beveridge,<br>
&gt;&gt; I.T. co-ordinator<br>
&gt;&gt; St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College<br>
&gt;&gt; Horsham<br>
&gt;&gt; email.. kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;<br>
&gt;&gt; Wishes and Eggs, one you make and one you break!&nbsp; A bit like
promises.....<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;<br>
&gt;&gt; &quot;This email and any attachments may be confidential.&nbsp; You
must not<br>
&gt; disclose or use the information in this email if you are not the intended<br>
&gt; recipient.&nbsp; If you have received this email in error, please notify
us<br>
&gt; immediately and delete the email and all copies.&nbsp; The School does not<br>
&gt; guarantee that this email is virus or error free.&nbsp; The attached files
are<br>
&gt; provided and my only be used on the basis that the user assumes all<br>
&gt; responsibility for any loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or<br>
&gt; indirectly from the use of the attached files, whether caused by the<br>
&gt; negligence of the sender or not.&nbsp; The content and opinions in this
email are<br>
&gt; not necessarily those of the School.&quot;<br>
&gt;&gt; ________________________________<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; From: itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Mark Kelly<br>
&gt;&gt; Sent: Wed 7/25/2007 9:24 AM<br>
&gt;&gt; To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
&gt;&gt; Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] Excel resource<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I've mentioned this before, but a great Excel resource is Greg
Bowden's<br>
&gt;&gt; Guided Excel tutorials, available in PDF format at <a
href="http://www.gct.com.au/">http://www.gct.com.au</a><br>
&gt; &lt;<a href="http://www.gct.com.au/">http://www.gct.com.au/</a>&gt; .<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; Mark Kelly<br>
&gt;&gt; Manager - Information Systems<br>
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--<br>
Mark Kelly<br>
Manager - Information Systems<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">McKinnon</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName
 w:st="on">Secondary</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><br>
<st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">McKinnon Rd</st1:address></st1:Street>
McKinnon 3204, <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Victoria</st1:City>, <st1:country-region
 w:st="on">Australia</st1:country-region></st1:place><br>
Direct line: 8520 9085<br>
School Phone +613 8520 9000<br>
School Fax&nbsp;&nbsp; +613 9578 9253<br>
kel AT mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au<br>
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