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ct Kevork
( <a href=3D"http://www.edulists.com.au/">www.edulists.com.au</a> )<o:p></o:=
p></span></font></p>

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'font-size:
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raphy"><span
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font-weight:bold'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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font-weight:bold'>Peter Nash<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoAutoSig><b><font size=3D1 color=3Dpurple face=3D"Lucida Callig=
raphy"><span
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:purple;
font-weight:bold'>IT Teacher<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoAutoSig><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on"><b><=
font
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ze:9.0pt;
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an></font></b></st1:PlaceName><b><font
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e:9.0pt;
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 <st1:PlaceType w:st=3D"on">College</st1:PlaceType></span></font></b></st1:p=
lace><b><font
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<p class=3DMsoAutoSig><st1:Street w:st=3D"on"><st1:address w:st=3D"on"><b><f=
ont
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ze:9.0pt;
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</span></font></b></st1:address></st1:Street><b><font
size=3D1 color=3Dpurple face=3D"Lucida Calligraphy"><span style=3D'font-size=
:9.0pt;
font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:purple;font-weight:bold'>, Werribee,
Vic. 3030<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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igraphy"><span
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font-weight:bold'>Tel: (03) 9741 4911<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span><=
/font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:Tahoma'>
itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><s=
pan
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Hock Khaw<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 15 May 2007 12=
:54
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"o=
n">Year
 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 IT Apps=
] VET
IT Computers</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D=
'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Hi Peter,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D=
'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thank you for your comprehensive respon=
se.
I am not the person teaching&nbsp;the course&nbsp;but am the Computer System
Manager trying to get a confirmation as to what system specs that are
appropriate for the teaching of VET IT. From your description below, can
I&nbsp;ask that if&nbsp;we were to deploy the HP Pentium 3 PCs with 20GB HD,
320Mb RAM would be sufficient for the needs of the students. </span></font><=
o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D=
'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>We also&nbsp;provided them with&nbsp;an
isolated network with a switch that the students (and teacher) can use to
practise their networking skills even though the cables are running all over
the lab!&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D=
'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>What is the address of the VET IT List?=
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D=
'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thank you for your time.</span></font><=
o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D=
'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Hock</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=3D2 face=
=3DTahoma><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>=
From:</span></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:Tahoma'>
itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><s=
pan
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b><st1:PersonName w:st=3D"o=
n">Nash,
 Peter N</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 15 May 2007 11=
:58
AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"o=
n">Year
 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 IT Apps=
] VET
IT Computers</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D=
'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hock,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D=
'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D=
'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>No real PC requirements as long as you=
 can
use them to meet the training package unit of competencies. I use Pentium 3=
 PCs
with 20 GB HDD, 128Mb RAM (at present), run XP Lite and about to partition t=
he
HDD to load Ubuntu Linux. The students can then load relevant applications.<=
o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D=
'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D=
'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In respect to how long you may use them
for &#8211; really depends on your schools commitment to VET IT. I have some
computers that are 4 to 5 years old and still used in my VET IT course. You
need to look and understand the ICA05 Training Package and its content &#821=
1;
try and attend a VITTA run PD session look out for details as I am not sure
when we are running one in Melbourne next.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D=
'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D=
'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Other hardware: I currently run an
independent network with 4 servers, with various network operating systems f=
rom
Server 2003, Linux, and even the old Windows NT ver. 4.0 . The 7 workstation=
s
we have attached to this network and a laser printer &#8211; all installed b=
y
the students. I use my VET network for the IT Apps students to understand
Networking &#8211; protocols, topology, security issues etc. This is a very
hands-on way for the students to understand networking and works well.<o:p><=
/o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D=
'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D=
'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Try the VET IT list for more informatio=
n. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D=
'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoAutoSig><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dpurple face=3D"Lucida Callig=
raphy"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:purple;
font-weight:bold'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoAutoSig><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dpurple face=3D"Lucida Callig=
raphy"><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:purple;
font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoAutoSig><b><font size=3D4 color=3Dpurple face=3D"Lucida Callig=
raphy"><span
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:purple;
font-weight:bold'>Peter Nash<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoAutoSig><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dpurple face=3D"Lucida Callig=
raphy"><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:purple;
font-weight:bold'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoAutoSig><b><font size=3D1 color=3Dpurple face=3D"Lucida Callig=
raphy"><span
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:purple;
font-weight:bold'>IT Teacher<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoAutoSig><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on"><b><=
font
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ze:9.0pt;
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an></font></b></st1:PlaceName><b><font
 size=3D1 color=3Dpurple face=3D"Lucida Calligraphy"><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:9.0pt;
 font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:purple;font-weight:bold'> <st1:Place=
Type
 w:st=3D"on">Park</st1:PlaceType> <st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on">Secondary</st1:=
PlaceName>
 <st1:PlaceType w:st=3D"on">College</st1:PlaceType></span></font></b></st1:p=
lace><b><font
size=3D1 color=3Dpurple face=3D"Lucida Calligraphy"><span style=3D'font-size=
:9.0pt;
font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:purple;font-weight:bold'><o:p></o:p><=
/span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoAutoSig><st1:Street w:st=3D"on"><st1:address w:st=3D"on"><b><f=
ont
  size=3D1 color=3Dpurple face=3D"Lucida Calligraphy"><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:9.0pt;
  font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:purple;font-weight:bold'>Shaws Road=
</span></font></b></st1:address></st1:Street><b><font
size=3D1 color=3Dpurple face=3D"Lucida Calligraphy"><span style=3D'font-size=
:9.0pt;
font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:purple;font-weight:bold'>, Werribee,
Vic. 3030<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoAutoSig><b><font size=3D1 color=3Dpurple face=3D"Lucida Callig=
raphy"><span
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itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><s=
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n">Year
 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
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We are
currently redeploying some computers for use by students doing the VET IT
program. Can you please let me know what are the minimum requirements for th=
ese
students to use and what they mainly use for? What is the duration for the u=
se
of these systems, one term or whole year? Hope to hear from people out there
who are offering the VET IT courses.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Direct line (NM): 9269 6911<br>
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