[Year 12 IT Apps] Mailing lists

[Robert]

Thanks Kevork

Keeping the list open is certainly my preference.

So we just need to be careful about what we say in public :-)

If we want to go a bit more personal then we should use 1-to-1 emails for 
that

Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
Ashwood and Traralgon
robert at yinnar.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevork Krozian" <Kroset at novell1.fhc.vic.edu.au>
To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List" 
<itapps at edulists.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Mailing lists


> Hi Folks,
>
>   The students have searched and found archives of messages. Currently 
> these are public to encourage interest and participation in these lists 
> just like the search function on the Edulists site. We could make all 
> these private and require passwords that people will lose and ask for 
> again and again ......  No disrespect intended here, just stating what 
> happens in reality.  How bad is it if a student sees a teacher asking a 
> question ? or learning or expanding their knowledge ?
>
>   The approach I have taken is to make edulists as open as possible except 
> for sample SACs , exams and other assessment material which lives behind a 
> password.
> There are other closed lists that operate, but you can't find them unless 
> invited.
>
>   In the 12 years edulists has been running, and more than 100,000 emails 
> later we haven't had anyone scream or bleed or otherwise get into trouble.
>   As a teacher as opposed to the Edulists administrator, if a student of 
> mine found a thread I was in and wanted to ask me what I was trying to 
> find out or investigate, I would be glad to share with him/her the issue 
> or discussion and ask for his input or help. In fact, often I mention the 
> content of some of the threads going on with the lists.  There are 
> lecturers, industry reps, and other non teachers on the lists as well. I
>
>    If a teacher from any part of the world did a search on a topic and 
> landed on the Edulists site and found it of interest and joined the list 
> without hindrance or obstacles, that would be a victory for education. To 
> block access with passwords and hurdles would be a defeat as we want 
> instant information and would hardly come back the day after if we don't 
> get it straight away.
>
> Just my thoughts. I do hope people can see where I am coming from .
> Happy to hear other views.
>
> Take Care
>
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> Kevork Krozian
> IT Manager , Forest Hill College
> k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au
> http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au
> Mobile: 0419 356 034
>
>>>> "Robert" <robert at yinnar.com> 28/10/2008 3:46 pm >>>
> Thanks Margaret,
>
> We do tend to overlook some things.
>
> We have two choices on this security issue -
>
> either
>
> we need to restrict access to the list messages to authorised list 
> members -
> don't ask me how, I'm not a security expert.
>
> or
>
> we must be careful what we say, so that students or other "non-members" of
> the list cannot gain any "useful" or personal infomation that we do not 
> want
> them to have.
>
> Answer?
>
> What do we want? And what is actually possible?
>
> One of the joys of the Internet, and also one of the biggest problems, is
> the open access of information to all of us.
>
> Where do these lists need to go?
>
> Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
> Ashwood and Traralgon
> robert at yinnar.com
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Margaret McArthur" <mmcarthur at geelongcollege.vic.edu.au>
> To: <itapps at edulists.com.au>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:21 PM
> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: itapps Digest, Vol 44, Issue 43
>
>
>> Can I just bring to attention to the moderator that these emails can be
>> accessed by students.  One of my students did a google search and was
>> able to bring up an email using my name and edulist.
>>
>> How can we secure these emails?
>>
>> Margaret McArthur
>> The GEELONG College
>>
>
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