Believe it or not, for some people there very good reason for using a proxy redirector (but not at our school as I have often pointed out) .. I was also stunned at the workaround and yes, there is probably little that can be done about it except explore the excessive usage of any domains. I am not one for posting public suggestions on how to bypass school
security systems but if anybody calls me direct, I am happy to elaborate off
list.<br><br>Nothing beats having a teacher around to physically what students are doing. Our students are generally well behaved whilst I am on yard duty and this is without the aid of surveillance cameras, microphones and log files.
<br><br>Regards Roland<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 18/12/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Bryan Whelan</b> <<a href="mailto:bwhelan@dcsi.net.au" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
bwhelan@dcsi.net.au</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
The issue here is not the big budget blow out so much, it is the fact that<br>these sites bypass your security protocols. If you aren't sure try accessing<br>one of these sites (mentioned below) as a student. If you can get in your
<br>internet security is vulnerable.<br><br>We at Drouin, have been dealing with this problem for some time. Editure and<br>SINA have really done nothing about it and it is high time they and others<br>address this problem. They can collectively block porn and racist sites, why
<br>not these?<br><br>Our current reaction to students caught using these sites is to treat it as<br>criminal activity because it is. We send letters home, contact parents and<br>in some cases suspensions have been issued. That is, we treat it very
<br>seriously. So far the message has gotten through to the students<br><br>My hope is that a technological solution is out there<br><br><br>Bryan Whelan<br><br>IT MANAGER<br>DROUIN SECONDARY COLLEGE<br><br>-----Original Message-----
<br>From: <a href="mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On<br>Behalf Of Cameron Bell<br>Sent: Wednesday, 13 December 2006 4:08 PM
<br>To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'<br>Mailing List<br>Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] Proxy avoiding web sites andindividual user<br>accounts<br><br>PS - I am not associated with Bright Sparks in any way. ;) (We use SINA too,
<br>but looked at the BS option to keep costs down as well)<br><br>Cameron Bell wrote:<br>> Why not switch to Bright Sparks unlimited-download plan for $550 per<br>month?<br>> What sort of traffic plan are you on currently?
<br>><br>> Laurie Savage wrote:<br>><br>>> Can you log the indivdual students and kill their accounts? We had a<br>>> budget blow-out in 2005 because of a sudden upsurge in downloads of<br>>> videos and songs. We threatened and then hit the kids with an
<br>>> Internet levy and told them why. This year, with reminders, we are on<br>>> track budget-wise.<br>>><br>>> As a last resort kill the Internet for a while - that works wonders.<br>>><br>
>> Laurie<br>>><br>>> <a href="mailto:kgration@myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">kgration@myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au</a> wrote:<br>>><br>
>>> Dear List,<br>>>><br>>>> During the last few months our wonderful students have discovered
<br>>>> treasure troves of proxy avoiding web sites (e.g. vtunnel, kproxy,<br>>>> flyproxy etc. etc. etc.) with multiple variations of each of these<br>>>> and numerous others as the URL. Most of these sites are secure (
i.e.<br>>>> https:// rather than http://) so are difficult to block or usually<br>>>> totally unblockable using the SINA front end. The Year 10-12<br>>>> students are particularly notorious for this kind of behaviour.
<br>>>> Blocking the source IP address appears to be the only rather<br>>>> fragmented solution to this problem . . . but this essentially<br>>>> amounts to a game of catch up . . . and without a full time tech.
<br>>>> usually means a call to Editure . . . who aren't always 100% successful<br>either.<br>>>><br>>>> Not surprisingly our Internet budget has basically been blown as a<br>>>> result. I am now considering taking away individual user accounts
<br>>>> for student Internet use and having Learning Area, Year Level or<br>>>> some other account structure where teachers enter the password for<br>>>> students in their care.<br>>>>
<br>
>>> Does anyone out there have any gems of wisdom (bright ideas) or<br>>>> perspectivesto share in this area?<br>>>><br>>>> Cheers,<br>>>><br>>>> Kim<br>>>><br>
>>> ---<br>>>> Kim Gration<br>>>> ICT Manager<br>>>> Myrtleford Secondary College<br>>>> <a href="http://www.myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
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