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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D000191207-03112006>Totally agree -=
 there is 
no such thing as a perfect solution...</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D000191207-03112006></SPAN>&nbsp;</=
DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D000191207-03112006>Solutions gathe=
r momentum 
from their power, flexibility, responsiveness, user base, price and 
philosophy.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D000191207-03112006>Moodle is power=
ful for 
education in that it has built in functions that model many aspects of 
educational course delivery.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D000191207-03112006>It is flaky in=
 many areas 
(wiki) and undeveloped in others (embedded files, user file management, prin=

layout, calendar functions)</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D000191207-03112006>It is highly fl=
exible in 
that it has so many features that can be "twisted" to support novel applicat=
ions 
(wiki as a staff manual, a shared textbook or a group project tool.&nbsp; Fo=
rum 
as information sharing, group task with individual assessment etc 
etc).</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D000191207-03112006>It is highly fl=
exible in 
that&nbsp;it is so amenable to user tweaking due to the open and relatively=
 well 
structured code.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D000191207-03112006>It is responsiv=
e in that 
the open source community is continually developing additional features and=
 
improved functionality based on feedback from the growing community of schoo=
ls 
and universities that use it.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D000191207-03112006>It's user base=
 is still 
small and nowhere near as influential as that for Blackboard/ WebCT but is 
developing.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D000191207-03112006></SPAN><SPAN 
class=3D000191207-03112006>It's price on the other hand can't be beaten ($0)=
 when 
compared to other comparable products - even including the Vic Govt "UltraNe=
t" 
which&nbsp; will most likely be an expensive, bureaucratic, un-tweakable, 
proprietary product.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D000191207-03112006>It's philosophy=
 - open 
source and tolerant of many learning approaches - is one of it's most attrac=
tive 
features.&nbsp; The concept of community development of community solutions=
 is 
returning to the internet in force after a few decades in which it seemed th=
at 
user pays would totally rule the web.&nbsp; We should support this for moral=
 
reasons - as well as financial.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D000191207-03112006>Forgot to menti=
on that it 
is a proud Australian product.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D000191207-03112006></SPAN>&nbsp;</=
DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D000191207-03112006>I wish that an=
 Aust Govt 
would get behind it so that it can be developed (transformed?) into somethin=

that is far more powerful, flexible, responsive, with a huge user base while=
 
retaining the zero price and open philosophy.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D000191207-03112006></SPAN>&nbsp;</=
DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D000191207-03112006>Until then, we=
 have 
choices to "lock in" commercial products which increasingly require large an=
nual 
licenses rather than any form of ownership, let alone control.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D000191207-03112006></SPAN>&nbsp;</=
DIV>
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Digby, Learning Technology Manager <BR><A 
href=3D"mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au">mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au</=
A> 
&nbsp;<FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial 
size=3D2></FONT></FONT><BR>Cheltenham Secondary College <A 
href=3D"http://www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au/">www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au</A> Ph: 613=
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Life 
is what happens to you while you are making other plans. Knight's 
Law</SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<B>From:</B> ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au=

<B>On Behalf Of </B>Brendyn Hancock<BR><B>Sent:</B> 03 November 2006 03:18 
PM<BR><B>To:</B> ipm@edulists.com.au<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Year 12 IPM] 
moodle<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Daniel</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Moodle can do many things, in fact, I have seen several examples where=
 it 
has been pushed into some really otherwise untested areas. For everything th=
at I 
list as a failing I'm sure a creative and passionate moodler could offer me=
 a 
solution.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I believe however that it may not be the best solution. If it was, then=
 we 
could do away with so many other web based packages. Why are there products=
 like 
Scholastic, Synergetic, MAZE, Denbi etc Not to mention the herd of proprieta=
ry 
written intranets. You can mow&nbsp;an oval with a 26" cut ride on mower, bu=

it's best done with a 72" cut golf style fairway mower.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Don't be shy everyone. Join in.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Brendyn</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Brendyn Hancock</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1>IT Manager</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><A 
href=3D"mailto:bhancock@nagle.sale.catholic.edu.au">bhancock@nagle.sale.cath=
olic.edu.au</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>---------------------------------------------</FONT>=
</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><STRONG>Nagle College</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>5152 6122</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Bairnsdale VIC 3875 
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face=3DSansSerif>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~=
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<DIV><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Daniel.Stanley@flinders.vic.edu.au 03/11/2006 2:38 pm=
 
&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>I would be interested to hear any moodle 'failings' that you=
 may 
have experienced.<BR><BR>Daniel Stanley<BR>Flinders Christian Community 
College.<BR><BR>________________________________<BR><BR>From: 
ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Brendyn Hancock<BR>Sent: Fri 3/11/2=
006 
11:07 AM<BR>To: ipm@edulists.com.au<BR>Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] 
moodle<BR><BR><BR>At the risk of being flamed.<BR><BR>Moodle is not the answ=
er 
to everything! :-)<BR><BR>Its is a great curriculum support/delivery but it=
 is 
not a substitute for a well designed intranet/internal information 
system.<BR><BR>Brendyn<BR><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Lance.Gibbens@flinders.vic.edu.au=
 
03/11/2006 10:48 am &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>Can I add my voice to this request? I th=
ink 
this would be a great idea.<BR><BR>Kind regards<BR><BR>Lance<BR>Lance 
Gibbens<BR>Head of Teaching and Learning<BR>Flinders Christian Community 
College<BR>P.O. Box 45, TYA! BB, 3913<BR>Ph. 59732013 Mob 
0419548036<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: 
ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au]<BR>On Behal=
f Of 
margaret.lawson@konstantkaos.net<BR>Sent: Friday, 3 November 2006 10:32 
AM<BR>To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and 
Management<BR>Teachers'Mailing List<BR>Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] 
moodle<BR><BR>Rob<BR><BR>There is a moodle mailing list set up on edulists a=
nd 
and there are many<BR>of using it both professionally and personally to do a=
 
number of things.<BR><BR>Get on that list and perhaps come along to the next=
 
interest group<BR>(moot) being organised.<BR><BR>Regards<BR><BR>Margaret<BR>=
&gt; 
Are schools using sharepoint and moodle for separate tasks within <BR>&gt; t=
heir 
intranet design.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Does moodle satisfy the 
school's intranet needs on its own.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; We curre=
ntly 
use sharepoint for document storage and access. I am <BR>&gt; interested by=
 t! 
he recent thread covering ePortfolio and their use of <BR>&gt; moodle. 
<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Can I please have any comments or links sen=
t to 
me, of current moodle <BR>&gt; sites.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
Thanks<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; rob.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=
 
________________________________<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; From: 
ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au]<BR>&gt; On=
 
Behalf Of Travers, Graham J<BR>&gt; Sent: Monday, 30 October 2006 9:24 
AM<BR>&gt; To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management <BR>=
&gt; 
Teachers'MailingList<BR>&gt; Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] Year 
11<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; Some (old) tests attached - you may be able t=

peel off some u seful <BR>&gt; questions. Some time since I've had a 
class.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
________________________________<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; From: 
ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au]<BR>&gt; On=
 
Behalf Of Marshall, Graham F<BR>&gt; Sent: Friday, 27 October 2006 3:56 
PM<BR>&gt; To: ipm@fhc.vic.ed! u.au<BR>&gt; Subject: [Year 12 IPM] Year 
11<BR>&gt; Importance: High<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Dear 
All,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Does anyone have a Yr 11 IT exam for th=

end of the year, with <BR>&gt; solutions?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I=
 am 
running out -of-ideas.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
Regards,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Gra=
ham 
Marshall - Bayswater 
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