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to be replaced by a different &#8220;change&#8221; a couple of years later.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&#8220;Wake up! Time to retire!&#8221; (with
apologies to <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Leon</st1:place></st1:country-region>)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Mark Scott<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Stephen Digby<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 7 September 2006
11:08 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Year 12 Information
Technology Processing and ManagementTeachers'Mailing List'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 IPM]
Computer Lab usage</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I was trying to show that your response of
&quot;</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Shift happens. </span></font><font
size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'>You can't deny it or legislate against it. Live with it. Embrace
it.&quot; implies an acceptance of whatever happens without considering whether
it is a good idea.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I know I often feel powerless in a world
gone mad, but I remind myself of my responsibility to maintain and communicate
to students that faith (not fact) that individuals can influence change.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>All that is necessary for the triumph of
evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke (1729&#8211;1797)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>======================================================================================<br>
Stephen Digby, Learning Technology Manager <br>
<a href="mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au">mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au</a>
&nbsp;<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Cheltenham</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName
 w:st="on">Secondary</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>
<a href="http://www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au/">www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au</a> Ph: 613
955 55 955&nbsp; Fx: 9555 8617<br>
======================================================================================<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<br>
If you saw a heat wave, would you wave back?- Steven Wright <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mark Scott<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 07 September 2006 09:02 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Year 12 Information Technology
Processing and Management Teachers'MailingList<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 IPM]
Computer Lab usage</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Just read this three times and still
don&#8217;t understand<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Do you agree with me or am I a complete
idiot?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Mark Scott<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Stephen Digby<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 7 September 2006
8:14 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Year 12 Information
Technology Processing and ManagementTeachers'Mailing List'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 IPM]
Computer Lab usage</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>- the community is voting with its feet
for privatized (user pays) education&nbsp; - </span></font><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Shift happens. </span></font><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>You can't deny it or
legislate against it. Live with it. Embrace it.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>- the community and the national
government want student progress reports expressed as a single index (A-F) in
relation to objective benchmarks - </span></font><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Shift
happens. </span></font><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>You can't deny it or
legislate against it. Live with it. Embrace it.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>- most school communities want their
schools to exclude students who damage the opportunity or safety of other
students.&nbsp; Schools who don't do this (esp. government schools)
are&nbsp;not attractive to parents with choices&nbsp;- </span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Shift happens. </span></font><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>You can't deny it or
legislate against it. Live with it. Embrace it.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>- I could go on......</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Most educators are very selective about
embracing &quot;change&quot;.&nbsp; <br>
The changes that they embrace are usually those that fit their personal values
and their career aspirations.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>The current line management of educational
structures has created an atmosphere where to &quot;talk the talk&quot; is
essential to getting promotion.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thus, the hegemony of ideas from the
&quot;authorities' has come to&nbsp;mean the employer.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>What I am trying to&nbsp;say is that there
is more money, and therefore more &quot;snake oil&quot;,&nbsp;in IT than most
areas of the curriculum.&nbsp; To retain some intellectual credibility and
autonomy, it is wise to ensure that the benefits of &quot;change&quot; are evaluated
in an objective sense rather than accepted as articles of faith in the vision
of the current politician.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>======================================================================================<br>
Stephen Digby, Learning Technology Manager <br>
<a href="mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au">mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au</a>
&nbsp;<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Cheltenham</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName
 w:st="on">Secondary</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>
<a href="http://www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au/">www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au</a> Ph: 613
955 55 955&nbsp; Fx: 9555 8617<br>
======================================================================================<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><br>
<br>
My friend Winnie is a procrastinator. He didn't get his birthmark until he was
eight years old.- Steven Wright </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mark Scott<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 06 September 2006 08:47 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Year
 12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 IPM]
Computer Lab usage</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Shift happens</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>You can't deny it or legislate against it.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Live with it.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Embrace it.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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w:st="on">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</st1:PersonName> on behalf of Stephen
Digby<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wed 6/09/2006 8:03 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Year 12 Information
Technology Processing and ManagementTeachers'Mailing List'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 IPM]
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<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hate to
always be the voice of reason, but I am firmly against &quot;change&quot;.&nbsp;
I<br>
am only in favor of &quot;improvement&quot;.&nbsp; The problem with many
changes that are<br>
proposed is that the case for them as improvements is not made.<br>
Recalcitrant is a good word as it refers to the refusal to accept authority.<br>
It is in the &quot;unreason&quot;able exercise of authority that recalcitrant
behavior<br>
can be a virtue - think of many issues not doubt dear to many hearts -<br>
corporal punishment, enforced numerical grading, enforced letter grades,<br>
enforced ranking reports, etc etc...&nbsp;&nbsp; Would YOU be recalcitrant ?<br>
<br>
Please let's focus on rational debate about what are improvement options and<br>
why they ARE improvements, rather than on an &quot;authority&quot; that tells
us that<br>
some changed classroom technology or layout is an improvement.<br>
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All that glisters is not gold.<br>
Shakespeare: From The Merchant of Venice (II, vii) Portia is a beautiful,<br>
virtuous, wealthy woman who is being wooed by numerous suitors. She is not<br>
free to decide on her own whom she will marry because her late father ...<br>
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From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</st1:PersonName> [<a
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On<br>
Behalf Of <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Bell</st1:City></st1:place>,
Cameron P<br>
Sent: 06 September 2006 12:44 PM<br>
To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management<br>
Teachers'MailingList<br>
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] Computer Lab usage<br>
<br>
Depends on the culture of the school too.<br>
I think wholesale systematic change is hardest for schools to deal with.<br>
I am sure we have all had dealings with some teachers that have the &quot;this
is<br>
the way we have always done it&quot; attitude and fight change. They often have<br>
the loudest voice in meetings and have the &quot;fear-factor&quot; in their favour.<br>
Other schools have leadership that encourages change and - dare I say it -<br>
&quot;taking risks&quot;. A culture like this can help reduce the effect of the<br>
nay-sayers and will provide the resources to facilitate change.<br>
<br>
I have also had a few teachers close to retirement refusing point blank to<br>
learn any new systems or procedures. I have been told &quot;I am retiring next<br>
year, I am not going to worry about learning something new now.&quot; On the<br>
opposite side, you have those who just want to keep learning - regardless of<br>
their age or circumstances. I really admire that, as that is exactly the<br>
attitude I would want to instill in the students - life-long, ongoing<br>
learning.<br>
<br>
So that change can happen, how do you encourage &quot;recalcitrant&quot; (for
want of<br>
a better word) teachers to accept that we must constantly change and adapt<br>
to new circumstances so that it is not seen as a burden, but an opportunity?<br>
Would love any additional strategies people can suggest.<br>
<br>
Cameron<br>
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From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</st1:PersonName> [<a
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On Behalf Of <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Murray</st1:City></st1:place>
O.<br>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:17 AM<br>
To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management<br>
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Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] Computer Lab usage<br>
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Mark<br>
I disagree with you.<br>
Based on my experience, I think teachers are highly adaptable to change be<br>
planned or unplanned. That being said I too get frustrated at trying to<br>
facilitate change in schools.<br>
<br>
Can you tell of other professions or groups of adults that change quickly?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Oliver Murray<br>
Web Developer<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Westbourne</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
 w:st="on">Grammar School</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><br>
www.westbournegrammar.com<br>
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From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</st1:PersonName> [<a
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On Behalf Of Mark Scott<br>
Sent: Wednesday, 6 September 2006 10:30 AM<br>
To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management<br>
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Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] Computer Lab usage<br>
<br>
We are talking teachers.<br>
<br>
This is a species renown for not changing quickly.<br>
<br>
Mark<br>
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On Behalf Of jturner<br>
Sent: Wednesday, 6 September 2006 10:11 AM<br>
To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management<br>
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<br>
The big mistake people continue to make is seeing technology as the catalyst<br>
for sustainable change in education when it should be people.<br>
Technology is invaluable whatever its peculiarities but learner centered<br>
means people at the center.<br>
John<br>
<br>
On 05/09/2006, at 3:41 PM, Mark Scott wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; I have said it before and no doubt I will say it again.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The biggest advantage in introducing student owned laptops into a<br>
&gt; school is that it can be used as a catalyst for change.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; You can start to talk about learner centred classrooms instead of<br>
&gt; teacher centred ones.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ... and of course this is not the only strategy you try, just one of<br>
&gt; several.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Mark Scott<br>
&gt; <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Luther</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName
 w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceName></st1:place><br>
&gt;<br>
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[<a href="mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]<br>
&gt; On Behalf Of Michael Walker<br>
&gt; Sent: Tuesday, 5 September 2006 3:06 PM<br>
&gt; To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management<br>
&gt; Teachers'Mailing List<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] Computer Lab usage<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Laurie Savage&lt;sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au&gt; 09/05/06 12:07pm
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; And now we have a generation of people who cannot do the simplest<br>
&gt; calculation in their head.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Laurie<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Mark Scott wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; They said the same thing about calculators back in the early<br>
&gt; seventies.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Ah generalisations, you've got to love them... 8^)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I would argue that with the use of calculators, you don't need to do<br>
&gt; the simplest calculation in your head. However, it requires a<br>
&gt; different skill set to check that your calculator is giving you an<br>
&gt; accurate answer rather than no skill set at all, hence the higher<br>
&gt; emphasis on estimation that occurs in teaching maths now than when I<br>
&gt; was at school. Tempora mutantur, nos et mutamur in illis...<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I would also argue that those kids I know of who have trouble<br>
&gt; performing the simplest calculation aren't all that flash on using the<br>
&gt; calculator either. I would suggest that a greater cause is lack of<br>
&gt; interest for whatever reason from boring teaching methods in previous<br>
&gt; years showing the kids how irrelevant maths is to lack of support at<br>
&gt; home for doing homework and school in general. Now there's a can of<br>
&gt; worms or three...<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Although I don't think laptops are a cure for all ills, I suspect that<br>
&gt; under some circumstances they can be a useful tool in the hands of the<br>
&gt; right practitioner, and in others are a complete waste of time when<br>
the<br>
&gt; circumstances of the school and students are taken into account. To<br>
&gt; give some examples, I am sure that in some laptop schools, the laptops<br>
&gt; are an expensive pseudo notebook / electronic textbook whose primary<br>
advantage<br>
&gt; is larger capacity, neater handwriting (typing vs scribble) and better<br>
&gt; searchability. Obviously Mark's school is not one of them based on his<br>
&gt; response. That's not to say schools with poor use of laptops don't<br>
&gt; exist, and anecdotal evidence would suggest that they do. On the other<br>
&gt; hand, the same applies to schools who have changed their teaching to<br>
&gt; make good use of new teaching methods available from every student<br>
&gt; having the tool and having been taught a proficiency with it.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On the other hand, I would suspect that there would be scenarios where<br>
<br>
&gt; a<br>
&gt; $2000 laptop would be a poor use of family or school resources for the<br>
&gt; perceived benefits compared to alternatives. Would a struggling<br>
western<br>
&gt; suburbs secondary school be able to justify making every student buy a<br>
&gt; laptop, even on finance? Would alternative approaches such as good use<br>
&gt; of Moodle with external access be more appropriate in terms of bang<br>
for<br>
&gt; buck?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I would suggest that neither black nor white are correct and that<br>
&gt; although there is a place for laptops in schools, it would be silly to<br>
&gt; try and suggest that it would be desirable for every school in the<br>
&gt; state and every student in the state to have a laptop and be in a<br>
&gt; laptop program. Or to suggest that every maths student in the state<br>
&gt; can't do simple calculations in their head...<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
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