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color=#0000ff size=2>Suggest that only "games" that deliver quality educational
outcomes be allowed in schools - full stop.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>We go out of our way to make the distinction between the
legitimate use of computers in homes for a variety of purposes (from sexual
gratification, through entertainment, to business and often some small education
component) and the special use of computers in school for exclusively education
purposes.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>Children arrive at school with a sense that the "natural"
use of computers (and TV !) is entertainment. Every time we allow this
within school, we accept that this is true and that educational activities are
inherently second rate and can only be sustained with extrinsic motivators or
punishments.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>I have the same opposition to the short-sighted use of
videos, entertaining excursion and being "let off" early as rewards for
good work.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>They all add to the same perception that education is
drudgery. That all gain can be achieved without any pain. That
perseverance is sometimes regrettably necessary in some subjects (probably
because the teacher is not much good, or the content is old fashioned) etc
etc.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>By all means involve students in game analysis and design
which will involve playing in a disciplined, and reflective manner. But
make sure that the games analysed, designed and played have deep intellectual
content and preferably significant cultural significance.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>Students ARE challenged by playing war games - everything
from chess, through RISK to historical battle simulations. They can learn
excellent thinking skills, interpersonal strategies and a great deal of history
IF the experience is guided by a good teacher (or parent).
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=564240409-27022006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>"Fun, amusement, entertainment" are often by products of a
well designed educational activity - they should never be a core objective -
even at lunchtime.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=564240409-27022006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>As teachers, we can always invent some jargon filled
rationalisation for what we often know to be capitulation to a culture of
"little brain".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>If they are to play LAN games, make it "serious", make
it challenging, make it - make it educational..... Can you do
it ? Honestly ? If not, don't.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>======================================================================================<BR>Stephen
Digby, Learning Technology Manager
digby.stephen.p@edumail.vic.gov.au<BR>Cheltenham Secondary College
www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au Ph: 613 955 55 955 Fx: 9555
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<P><FONT size=2></FONT> </P><BR>We Trained hard.....but it seemed that every
time we were beginning to form up into teams, we would be re-organised... I was
to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by
re-organising....and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of
progress while producing confusion, inefficiency and demoralisation. Petronius
210 BC
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>WEIR
Andrew<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 27 February 2006 7:15 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12
Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'Mailing
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<P><FONT size=2>Andrew</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Thanks for that we have started
to investigate games without a violence aspect straight after i sent the email
the students involved understand the issues with perception of
violence.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>Andrew</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From:
ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Andrew Shortell</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>Sent: Mon 2/27/2006 3:32 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>To: Year 12
Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'MailingList</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] OT : LAN gaming</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2> </FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Andrew,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Counter
strike is a game that encourages a lot of noise from the</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>participants. (I really mean a lot.) The game server needs its
firewall</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>disabled. The game runs quicker on a dedicated
machine. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>Questions I would ask include:</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Parental
permission ?</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Encouraging violence?</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>Against the ethos of TC College - religious affiliation etc,
biblically</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>inclined parents etc</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>Bad reaction from RE teachers?</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>The fact that it will be almost entirely boys .. this is not a
girl</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>friendly environment ... </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>I endured it on Wednesday afternoons last year --- some loved
it, some</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>grew bored</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>LAN gaming is big, there must be better ones out there than
CS</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Good luck</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>Andrew Shortell</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Braemar College
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<P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From:
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<BR><FONT size=2>On Behalf Of WEIR Andrew</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Sent: Monday,
27 February 2006 3:07 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>To: Year 12 Information
Technology Processing and Management</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>Teachers'MailingList</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Subject: [Year 12 IPM] OT :
LAN gaming</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>Apologies for the off topic question</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>Some of my students have expressed interest in wanting to run a
lunch</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>time LAN party using the schools network before we
rule it out or go</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>ahead with it I wanted to see if any
other schools had actually done it</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>and what issues we
might face.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>We have already begun to look at the following aspects;</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>Game Rating and audience.</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>Licenses</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Installation</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>The students wanted to use Counter strike. There idea is charge
a small</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>admission fee and donate the money to
charity.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>Any help or advice would be great.</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>Andrew</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>Andrew Weir</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Head Of Information
Technology</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>VK3HFT</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Thomas Carr
College</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>35 Thomas Carr College Tarneit</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2> </FONT> </P>
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