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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>You have my vote in favour of the top posters. I find it
annoying and time consuming to scroll all the way down a long list of replies to
find the new message somewhere near the bottom.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I agree it is a matter of personal preference, there is no
"right way".</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>So cast your votes folks and then we can hopefully reach a
consensus at least for this list!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Robert Hind<BR>IT/Physics/Maths teacher<BR>Ashwood
College<BR><A
href="mailto:hind.robert.m@edumail.vic.gov.au">hind.robert.m@edumail.vic.gov.au</A><BR><A
href="mailto:robert@yinnar.com">robert@yinnar.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Meadows.Roslyn.M@edumail.vic.gov.au
href="mailto:Meadows.Roslyn.M@edumail.vic.gov.au">Meadows, Roslyn M</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ipm@edulists.com.au
href="mailto:ipm@edulists.com.au">Year 12 Information Technology Processing
and Management Teachers'Mailing List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:17
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Top Post versus Bottom Post
Confusion (formerly[Year 12 IPM] IPM New to list)</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#800040 size=2>Some of us top
post, some of us bottom post, in the end we have a garbled conglomeration that
you have to scroll down to read, never quite getting the gist of who posted
what comments in answer to what.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#800040 size=2>Can we have a vote or whatever, but
can we have some CONSISTENCY please??? Personally I prefer top posters, that
way I don't need to scroll down to find the last comments, and presuming
the thread is of interest I have already read the other posts
anyway.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#800040 size=2>Also is it possible that the topic can
be renamed when the subject has strayed?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#800000 size=2>Ros Meadows</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#800000 size=2>Bentleigh SC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#800000 size=2>9579 1044</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><A
href="mailto:meadows.roslyn.m@edumail.vic.gov.au">meadows.roslyn.m@edumail.vic.gov.au</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=huge><FONT color=#800000 size=2>Home computers are being
called upon to perform many new functions, including the consumption of
homework formerly eaten by the dog.</FONT></SPAN><FONT color=#800000 size=2>
<BR></FONT><SPAN class=bodybold><FONT size=2><FONT color=#800000><STRONG>Doug
Larson</STRONG></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV></FONT></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of
Andrew Grimshaw<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tue 12/6/2005 10:04 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12
Information Technology Processing and Management
Teachers'MailingList<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 IPM] IPM New to
list<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The debate is getting lively here!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In reply to Ron Lel</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=473473922-05122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>This
is not strictly correct Andrew. While the correction depends on the
number of students, the preparation is the same as if it were for
2 separate classes. - <FONT color=#ff0000>Preparation is much the same
but not less marking. I try to give my students as much feedback on homework
tasks etc as possible. The number of students clearly has an impact on
this. Also with 25 students I have no time in class to complete any other
tasks. I know from experience that in a small class (is my 8 students in maths
methods) there are quiet times when one can do prep and
marking</FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=473473922-05122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=473473922-05122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> I would suggest that Robert asks for more than a "small time
allowance". <FONT color=#ff0000>If i had 20+ students I would apply for 2
sessions and hope to get 1</FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=473473922-05122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=473473922-05122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Bet
he doesn't get it though.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=473473922-05122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=473473922-05122005><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000
size=2>Andrew Grimshaw</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=473473922-05122005><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000
size=2>Colac College</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A
title=lel.ronald.a@edumail.vic.gov.au
href="mailto:lel.ronald.a@edumail.vic.gov.au">Lel, Ronald A</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ipm@edulists.com.au
href="mailto:ipm@edulists.com.au">Year 12 Information Technology Processing
and Management Teachers'MailingList</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 06, 2005 9:43
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Year 12 IPM] IPM New to
list</DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>
[mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Andrew
Grimshaw<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 6 December 2005 9:35 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
Teachers'MailingList<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 IPM] IPM New to
list<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Margaret makes a very vaild point here - i
would argue that if i have to run a combined course for VCE, where there
is a large amount of marking and preparation, then i ought to be
given a small time allowance for it. The volume of work does depend on the
number of students though - what numbers are we talikng here?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Andrew Grimshaw</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>Colac College<SPAN
class=473473922-05122005><FONT
color=#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN class=473473922-05122005><FONT
color=#0000ff>Snipped</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=473473922-05122005></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN class=473473922-05122005><FONT
color=#0000ff>This is not strictly correct Andrew. While
the correction depends on the number of students, the preparation is
the same as if it were for 2 separate classes. I would suggest that
Robert asks for more than a "small time allowance". Bet he doesn't get it
though.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=473473922-05122005></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN class=473473922-05122005><FONT
color=#0000ff>Ron Lel</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN class=473473922-05122005><FONT
color=#0000ff>(President of the Correct Etiquette for </FONT> <FONT
color=#0000ff>Posting Group)</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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