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<DIV><SPAN class=315504502-16112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Rod,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=315504502-16112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=315504502-16112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> It has taken me a while to put something on significance on this
list but I have been embarrassed into it by the recent thread about us lurkers!1
:)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=315504502-16112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Whilst
I agree with a lot of your sentiments, I think we do need to be able to mount
more compelling arguments to justify the position of IT in the curriculum.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=315504502-16112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=315504502-16112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I take
your point about English, however there are a number of subjects that enter the
curriculum in their own right for the first time at VCE eg Legal Studies,
Accounting, Health and Human Development, Psychology to name a few.
Subjects like Maths, English and LOTE do need to have the foundations built in
the lower years but I am not so sure about many other subjects including
IT.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=315504502-16112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=315504502-16112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>One of
the other things that worries me a little, is that whenever we come up with a
Year 7/8 course for example (and I admit to being very guilty here) we fall back
on those hoary old chestnuts - Word, Excel, Powerpoint and (for heavens sake)
Access. It is little wonder that other KLAs cry out that they can do that as
well as anyone else - a lot of it is monkey see monkey do. And don't get me
started on Access -no one in their right mind would ever use seriously in
business or anywhere else for that matter - IMHO.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=315504502-16112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=315504502-16112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I am
inspired by people like Keith Richardson who comes up with video, multimedia
etc. That is where we are heading I suspect. Yet even, as I write, people are
all over the Cert I stuff that has been on the list today.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=315504502-16112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=315504502-16112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I do
not profess to have all or any of the answers to out dilemma but I think we need
to seriously think about where we want to take IT as a
subject.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>__________</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Peter O'Connor</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bayside College</FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Rod
Kendall<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:59 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Year
12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'Mailing
List<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Year 12 IPM] ICT and IT?
Justification<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dear
All<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This follows on from
the discussion that Keith started months ago…….<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I think that we need to
get clear in our own heads the difference between ICT and
IT.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Here are a few
questions that need to be answered?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As a subject area, do
we not have content that is subject specific to be taught ? Eg SDLC, Hardware
and Software. I see IT curriculum as important as any other subject area. We
have a curriculum that culminates in a VCE study either IPM or IS. It is
ridiculous to say that students can turn up in Year 10/11 and suddenly acquire
the full range of skills and knowledge to pass these VCE exams. We do not do
that to students of English. (My College teaches the basis of programming
concepts and the SDLC (and other like topis) as low as Year 5 – this provides
the basis for a steady build up of skills and knowledge through Year 5, 6, 7 , 8
, 9 (compulsory IT) and Years 10,11, and 12
(optional).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Are there not skills
that IT will teach that may not be covered in an ICT based curriculum? Eg
creating access databases, how to connect up a scanner
etc<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I find it hard to
swallow that we cannot justify our own curriculum.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">These are my
thoughts…interested in others<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Rod<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Martin, Michael M<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 16 November 2005 12:22 PM<BR><B><SPAN
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Teachers'Mailing List</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Year 12 IPM] RE: ICT
Coordinator duties and time allowances</SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=EN-US
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>I have concerns
with ICT according to VELS. Our IPM classes are down from 3 this
year to 1 next year. My principal is talking about removing IT from Years
7 and 8, making 9/10 as electives and teaching ICT skills across the other
subject. Many teachers seem to have concerns. What are the navigator
schools doing? What is their approach to ICT according to VELS?
Please advise.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
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ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Roland Gesthuizen<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Mon 14/11/2005 4:39 PM<BR><B><SPAN
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Teachers'Mailing List</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Year 12 IPM] RE: ICT
Coordinator duties and time allowances</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Thanks for
the post Leanne, sad to read some of these changes going on<BR>around the traps.
How do they fit into the broader context of the<BR>implementation of VELS into
your school? We may need to watch that we<BR>don't inflict up on students a new
ailment of "IT death by Google or<BR>powerpoint". It has taken some convincing
here that IT has been much<BR>much more ever teaching kids how to use
PowerPoint.<BR><BR>Somebody asked what it would take to replace an ICT trained
teacher. I<BR>have been a wag to respond in kind if there was a 2 hour workshop
that<BR>an ICT teacher could do before teaching a year 10 English class
..<BR>afterall, don't we all speak, read and write English? (no
disrespect<BR>intended to English staff) I have also insisted that I
embrace my work<BR>as part of a professional learning team but will be offended
if I am not<BR>consulted or it is assumed that I have been.<BR><BR>I like some
aspects of VELS but also understand that most IT trained<BR>teachers have
studied long and hard to qualify for their method area.<BR>Naturally they may
feel quite alone and humiliated if they are sidelined<BR>and marginalised from
any discussions about these changes.<BR><BR>Regards Roland<BR><BR>Biggins,
Leanne D wrote:<BR><BR>>Hi Ros,<BR>>This year at <st1:place
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coordinator (me) has had 2 periods allowance per 10 day cycle - ie 1 period per
week.<BR>>The duties include liasing with the ICT tech staff who service the
entire college, looking after budgets and orders, and checking that the relevant
exams are prepared and submitted.<BR>>Since I have been the only full time IT
teacher for the last 2 years, most of this just related to me, but there have
been up to 5 others taking a class or 3 here and there. I have done
curriculum where there were parallel classes to mine, and suggested units in the
classes that I don't teach, but I am not officially responsible for curriculum
and neither are any of the other program managers. Who is? I don't know!!!
I think that it is assumed that curriculum just hapens!<BR>><BR>>Next year
my role will change - to help deal with VELs. I will be a teaching and
learning coach with a focus on ICT and still have the program manager's
responsibilities. I will have 9 periods per cycle. We have lost IT at
years 8 and 10, and have had a semester block at year 7 in all of my time at
this school. My role next year will include going into other classes to
help students / staff to cover the integrated IT and to help students to
progress in their skills there. I guess I will be asked advice as well,
since there will not be time to go into as many classes as would like to utilise
my presence.<BR>><BR>>We'll see how it goes next year. I see it as a
postion full of potential and positives, but it may all fall over. I
despair that students will only use the skills that they come in with initially,
and I hope to help them progress.<BR>><BR>>Leanne
Biggins<BR>><st1:place
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w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><BR>><BR>>________________________________<BR>><BR>>From:
ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Meadows, Roslyn M<BR>>Sent: Thu
10/11/2005 1:58 PM<BR>>To: <st1:PersonName
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Teachers'Mailing List</st1:PersonName><BR>>Subject: ICT Coordinator duties
and time allowances<BR>><BR>><BR>>I am currently pushing to have an ICT
Coordinator position reinstated in our school (we have had no position and no
time allowance available for this position this year)<BR>><BR>>Just a
quick email asking others
briefly<BR>><BR>><BR>>* <BR>>
What are your
responsibilities?<BR>><BR>>* <BR>>
What is your time allowance?<BR>><BR>>Any feedback asap would be really
appreciated<BR>><BR>>Cheers<BR>><BR>>Ros Meadows<BR>>Bentleigh
SC<BR>>9579
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