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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf
Of </B>David Irving<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 11 November 2005 11:25
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
Teachers'Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Year 12 IPM] An invitation to
Lurkers<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>now that i am "live" i will make a couple
of comments and i hope i don't offend anyone.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>i did find it a bit difficult trying to
teach the kids such things as the difference between "conventions" and
"formats" and without this group it would have been impossible to even get the
ideas somewhat clear in my own head. it seems to me that VCAA have
presented a course that relies a lot on definitions of terms which they fail
to define and which may have multiple definitions depending on your
source.</FONT></DIV>
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class=543243800-11112005> </SPAN>David Irving</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>ICT Coordinator</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Monivae College</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ballarat Rd., </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hamilton,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Victoria, 3300</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>P.O. Box 423</FONT></DIV>
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class=543243800-11112005>I would agree with quite a lot of the above post. The
problem is that in many cases there is no right or wrong answer in IT, and
depending on which company you work for, work practices and techniques will be
different. Paula states that industry specialists are involved in the course
design. I really wonder who they are. In all my years of working in the IT
industry including in project management, for example, we never ever used Pert
charts, yet they are part of the course. </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=543243800-11112005>There were a number of questions in the exam which
had numerous "right answers", depending on your
background.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=543243800-11112005>Ron Lel</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=543243800-11112005>Croydon Secondary
College</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=543243800-11112005>(Soon to be Ron Lel from
Thailand).</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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