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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Kahootz was bought by DE&T for all gov’t
schools for cross curriculum use, not specifically for IT. Any teachers now
need to include ICT within their own teaching programs and Kahootz provides low
to intermediate users at both primary and secondary level with an animation
tool that is simple to use and creative for students.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It’s a product that is developed by
the ACTF and not by Macromedia, and in my opinion, is suitable for teachers who
are not IT specialists. All teachers are being encouraged to integrate ICT in
their teaching and provision has to be made for all users in the products
provided to schools.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The first release of Digital Content from
The Learning Federation was also included in the same kit with Kahootz, once
again for all teachers cross curriculum. I’d be interested if anyone has
used this content in their school or has loaded it onto the intranet for other
teachers to use. Further releases fro DE&T will be occurring throughout
2005 and 2006. This is a $10M investment from <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Victoria</st1:place></st1:State>, so it would be good to see it
being used by all teachers.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In many schools I have visited, the CDs
are under the Technician’s desk or have not been opened.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Interested in any feedback.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Stephen Digby DEET<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 23 June 2005 8:28
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Year 12 Information
Technology Processing and Management Teachers'Mailing List'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 IPM] Re: OT
Kahootz, 7-10 IT and Has VELS got it WRONG?</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Have tried Kahootz at Year 9 and consider
it :<br>
- bit shallow,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>- limited,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>- extremely slow (esp. loading
"impressions", </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>- no online help during the program (make
sure you have the PDF help file available to students ! BUT beware, the program
does not allow you to easily minimise to read it !).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>- OK as a clunky intro to
animation, but product pushes kids to merely put together "stock"
images in predictable ways.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>- Any novel idea (e.g. my students
especially wanted animated flames) could not easily be created outside and
imported in any standard format.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>- Considering it is Macromedia, it should
surely both export and import to/ from flash !!! It does not import
animated GIF or quicktime etc.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>The lessons and examples on the site
mainly focus on teaching "it" i.e. learning Kahootz as if it was a
worthy teaching objective in itself.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>The "links" to other learning
objectives are generally shallow or speculative.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Suggest that if you want to teach
animation and 3D design to secondary students, better starting points would be
animated GIF creators (e.g. Paint Shop etc) or "real" animation
editors (e.g. Flash) or real 3D editors (many freeware wire frame editors
available online which give full control of object creation.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>For primary school students it is a
motivational tool for fun exploration of animation (if you can justify this
objective in a busy primary school curriculum structure ..... but so is
the scene creator/ editor features of WarCraft and many other commercial games.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>IT is best used when it is a tool to get
students to think deeper faster i.e. explore complexities and concepts
more quickly than they could have without IT.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Many are still stuck in techno-worship,
where any motivating activity that includes IT is assumed to be innovative and
educationally valid.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>This is what created all those
"computer awareness" courses a few decades ago !!! Deep
thinking ? I think NOT.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>On balance, hard to see why is the subject
of so much investment by Vic Govt and Aust Child Tele. I could have
suggested a better investment in a Flash.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>(PS Would have sent a CC to Kahootz but
they do not even have a contact email on their site !?)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>==================================<br>
Stephen Digby, Learning Technology Manager<br>
<a href="mailto:digby.stephen.p@edumail.vic.gov.au">digby.stephen.p@edumail.vic.gov.au</a><br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Cheltenham</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Secondary</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><br>
<a href="http://www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au/">www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au</a><br>
Ph: 613 955 55 955 Fx: 9555 8617<br>
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The only way to have a friend is to be one. - Ralph Waldo Emerson <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Meadows, Roslyn M<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 22 June 2005
10:35 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Year 12 Information Technology
Processing and Management Teachers'MailingList<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 IPM] Re: OT
Kahootz, 7-10 IT and Has VELS got it WRONG?</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Hello all</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>After reading about some of your forays
into Kahootz I decided to check it out tonight - there are tutorials and
examples on the website www kahootz.com.au.(teacher resources link)
(Sorry Greg) I think I will give it a go with my new year 8's next
semester (only 2.5 weeks away!)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Meanwhile I have finally got Moodle to work - I had to <strong><b><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>beg</span></font></b></strong> our
intranet administrator (a library technician) to allow me to create my own
courses - before yesterday all I could do was edit my profile and post to a
forum!! I have created courses for each subject I teach, also for each
year level and the House system, and have uploaded lots of resources etc. As
Big Kev would say "I'm excited" ! I can't wait for a few others to
catch on.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>A BIG worry if Info Tech is integrated and not a stand alone
subject - we have to email our reports to the edumail address of the person who
prints them out and late last week another staff member was telling me she was
overjoyed that she had finished her reports the night before, but still hadn't emailed
them because she had problems logging onto edumail when she got to school that
morning. I asked her why hadn't she emailed them from home using her private
ISP and she said "but they have to be sent to edumail so I can only do
that from school can't I?" And to think these people might be teaching IT
as part of their SOSE or English allotment in the near future!!!! To me this is
totally scary. And I believe that these non IT teachers would find it
scary too - and certainly not approach the teaching of ICT with anywhere near
the enthusiasm of the IT teachers who live, breath and eat their
subject for dinner! </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I find it totally unbelievable, that considering ICT is
an area that is expanding exponentially, that VELS does not make ICT at
least as important as either English or Maths. Even we as a group are
constantly having to update our knowledge - how many of us had even
heard of blogs, wikis, moodle etc say two years ago? Surely to be adequately
prepared for the future our students need a more extensive grounding in ICT.
Australian companies are subcontracting programming to Indian companies because
of a shortage of skills and the rate of pay here, and the Indian companies are
subsubcontracting the same work out to Chinese companies. And the reason these
countries can do this programming? - because they began massive ICT education
campaigns when they realised that it was the way of the future
and one way to improve their economies. So more Aussie dollars go
offshore. We will be left in the wilderness if our students are not given these
skills.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Enough griping!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Have a wonderful wonderful holiday everyone, thank you for
all your emails - one of my favourite (relaxing) parts of the day is getting
home and reading through everything that comes to me via the edulists.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Ros Meadows<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Bentleigh</span></font></st1:City>
<st1:State w:st="on">SC</st1:State></st1:place> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>9579 1044<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'><a href="mailto:meadows.roslyn.m@edumail.vic.gov.au">meadows.roslyn.m@edumail.vic.gov.au</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Marshall, Graham F<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wed 22/06/2005 7:23 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Year 12 Information Technology
Processing and Management Teachers'Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 IPM] Re: OT
Kahootz and 7-10 IT</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Greg,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Used your training material before and it was fantastic. Any
help with Kahootz will be great.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>My year 8/9/10 are enjoying the program.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Regards,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Greg Bowden<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wed 6/22/2005 12:15 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Year 12 Information Technology
Processing and Management Teachers'Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Year
7 - 10 Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Year 12 IPM] Re: OT
Kahootz and 7-10 IT</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><?fontfamily><?param Arial>Hello everyoneFurther the
discussion a couple of weeks ago about the structure of IT in the 7-10
curriculum. I’m wondering what schools are doing with Kahootz. It seems
to me to be a program that lends itself to being taught in a stand alone IT
class then used by other KLAs once students know how to use it properly. I
can’t see KLAs at my school providing much class time for the learning of
Kahootz. I’ve just started teaching Kahootz to a year 8 IT class and I am
hoping at the end of the unit one of the other teachers of the class will set a
project using Kahootz. I must confess to also having a personal interest in
Kahootz. I’ve developed a teaching unit for it and I am trying to decide
whether it is worth the time and effort to send a flyer to schools (not much
use if not many schools have started to use it). So any feedback on your
opinions of Kahootz and its use would be helpful (e-mail me off the list if you
prefer). If you would like to have a look at some sample pages of the Kahootz
unit they can be viewed at <?color><?param
0000,0000,FFFD>www.gct.com.au<?/color> - then follow the Kahootz
link.Greg BowdenICT ManagerNorth Geelong SC<?/fontfamily> Important -
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