[Year 12 IPM] Dot plotting software

Wed Jul 26 12:46:10 EST 2006

Nonsense. (he says as politely as possible)

Give them numeric scores for the criteria if you like, just don't add
them up for an overall score and certainly don't rank them.

We need to remember that if a piece of assessment does not help advance
the knowledge or learning of a student then IT IS NOT WORTH DOING.
(probably shouldn't shout, sorry)

And as for feedback to parents, we should be telling them what we are
doing (or going to do) to help their kids not what is wrong with their
kids (which most know already)

Mark Scott

Luther College

PS I have dodgy fluro's in my office so everything is in shades of a
pale off-yellow.

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From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On Behalf Of Stephen Digby
Sent: Wednesday, 26 July 2006 12:07 PM
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Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] Dot plotting software

The "bottom line" of virtually all important educational selection
processes is a condensation of data into a single numeric.

It is only poor practice if you do it from laziness - i.e. you have the
time to consider every criteria and provide feedback on it specifically.

Most do not have the time.... Most would have difficulty in defending
any single criteria judgment in the face of an intelligent student (or
parent).

If you end up by condensing criteria into a single grade (or even a
comment that does not stick to mentioning criteria specifically) then
you are using exactly the same process as a person that prefers to do it
numerically....

Nearly every black and white is in reality a continuum of greys if you
look at it closely under a clear light...

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From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On Behalf Of Mark Scott
Sent: 26 July 2006 11:35 AM
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Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] Dot plotting software

Good to see all that Criterion based assessment nonsense thrown out the
window.

Grade them, percentage them and rank them.

Brendan Nelson would be proud, even though he is no longer in charge of
Education (they gave him Defense to play with and isn't that just a
little scary)

Mark Scott

Luther College

PS Bill, don't take this personally, I'm just having a whinge.

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From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On Behalf Of Bill Dunne
Sent: Wednesday, 26 July 2006 10:31 AM
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Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] Dot plotting software

Hi Andrew,

Not sure if this helps...

I got sick of converting my marks from one mark to another for SACs etc
and finding what the grade was... so I wrote a simple Excel page which
converts any mark to another and gives the grade and percentage. It just
uses a VLookup function ... bit hard to explain.

You could convert each score individually but it is a bit time consuming
putting in individual numbers. So I do a whole batch at once. Grades can
be changed on the table.

I select my printing margin, print out the page and use it as my
conversion table for that set of marks.

As I said, use it if it helps,

Bill D

Bill Dunne

Learning Technology and Communications Coordinator

Catholic Regional College Sydenham,

380 Sydenham Road,

Sydenham, 3037.

Ph-  9390 1444

Fax- 9390 2096

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From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On Behalf Of Stewart, Andrew
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:25 PM
To: ipm at edulists.com.au
Subject: [Year 12 IPM] Dot plotting software

Does anyone know of any software that allows you to plot student's
scores and allocate grade boundaries?

Cheers

Andrew

Andrew Stewart

Head of Information & Communication Technologies

Ballarat & Clarendon College

1425 Sturt St

Ballarat Vic 3350

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