[Year 12 IPM] Proxy avoiding web sites and individual useraccounts

Thu Dec 14 16:40:24 EST 2006

10c per Mb! We thought 7c/Mb was outrageous. Consider that in the 
context that at home I am charged 0.2 c/Mb by Optus on a 20Gb plan. You 
are charging 50 times the home rate. (Not making accusations, just an 
observation ;)  )
I understand that schools are restricted by limited ISP choice and that 
is *another* fight we have to start making. There is not enough 
competition allowed to drive prices down.

Meadows, Roslyn M wrote:
> At Bentleigh we charge 10 cents per Mb, 10 cents per page monochrome, 
> 50 cents per page colour. Kids get $10 credit at the beginning of the 
> year for each whether they pay fees or not.
>  
> Ros Meadows
> Bentleigh SC (been there enough lately to say I am officially back I 
> guess!!)
> meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au 
> <mailto:meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au>
>  
> /"Never put off until tomorrow what you can reasonably put off until 
> the week after next"/
> Anonymous Unemployed Couch Potato
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> *From:* ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Stephen Digby
> *Sent:* Thu 12/14/2006 4:04 PM
> *To:* 'Year 12 Information Technology Processing and 
> ManagementTeachers'Mailing List'
> *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 IPM] Proxy avoiding web sites and individual 
> useraccounts
>
> $6 per semester.  10c sheet printing and 10c/ Mb download.  Only about 30%
> of students pay additional (sure to rise each year until we are chargeing
> them ALL ha ha ha
>
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> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au] On
> Behalf Of fiona at balmoralhs.vic.edu.au
> Sent: 14 December 2006 12:12 PM
> To: ipm at edulists.com.au
> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] Proxy avoiding web sites and individual
> useraccounts
>
> Do you give the students a starting balance on each account and, if 
> so, how
> much
>
> thanks
> Fiona (the other kind of Bain)
> Balmoral
> "Bane, Janet A" <bane.janet.a at edumail.vic.gov.au> on Thu, 14 Dec 2006
> 10:32:09 +1100 wrote:
> > Hi Kim
> > there is a very simple solution to this problem - start charging the 
> kids
> for their internet usage!  I think you would find that most schools 
> do.  Our
> system is called Gaia Print and Net charger.  Not only do we charge for
> internet usage, we also charge 10c per print out.  Its amazing what 
> "needs"
> to be accessed and what doesn't when they have to pay for it!
> >
> > regards,
> > Janet Bane
> > Patterson River SC.
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of
> > kgration at myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au
> > Sent: Wed 13-Dec-06 3:31 PM
> > To: ipm at edulists.com.au
> > Subject: [Year 12 IPM] Proxy avoiding web sites and individual user
> > accounts
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear List,
> >
> > During the last few months our wonderful students have discovered 
> treasure
> troves of proxy avoiding web sites (e.g. vtunnel, kproxy, flyproxy 
> etc. etc.
> etc.) with multiple variations of each of these and numerous others as the
> URL. Most of these sites are secure (i.e. https:// 
> <https://www.edumail.vic.gov.au/> <https:/// 
> <https://www.edumail.vic.gov.au/>>  rather than
> http:// <http:///> <http:///> ) so are difficult to block or usually 
> totally
> unblockable using the SINA front end. The Year 10-12 students are
> particularly notorious for this kind of behaviour. Blocking the source IP
> address appears to be the only rather fragmented solution to this 
> problem .
> . . but this essentially amounts to a game of catch up . . . and without a
> full time tech. usually means a call to Editure . . . who aren't 
> always 100%
> successful either.
> >
> > Not surprisingly our Internet budget has basically been blown as a 
> result.
> I am now considering taking away individual user accounts for student
> Internet use and having Learning Area, Year Level or some other account
> structure where teachers enter the password for students in their care.
> >
> > Does anyone out there have any gems of wisdom (bright ideas) or
> perspectivesto share in this area?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Kim
> >
> > ---
> > Kim Gration
> > ICT Manager
> > Myrtleford Secondary College
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