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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear Lyle,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Thanks for your response in the spirit of open communication and all the positive reasons you have covered in your email.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The VCAA expressed the view ( through the English manager ) that it is not appropriate for various panel members to publicly justify the recommendations they have made during their time on those panel(s). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The purpose of my email was simply to highlight that point and not to prevent professional discussions along the lines you have mentioned in your email. In addition, we all have a right to our professional opinions and the right to express it as long as we don’t breach any netiquette guidelines.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kindest Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kevork Krozian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Edulists Creator Administrator<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>www.edulists.com.au<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>tel: 0419 356 034<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> english-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:english-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lyle Stebbing<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 20 May 2013 6:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> VCE English Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [English] Text list<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Dear Kevork,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Thank you for your participation in the recent debate about VCE texts. However, I cannot see how the various comments made about the Text List on Edulists conflict with its aims “to inform, clarify, question, explain, offer, respond, discuss or suggest how to teach the curriculum and the study area or to propose how the study can be enhanced.” The postings all seem intended to “</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>stimulate discussion or offer an improvement”.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Perhaps my comment about “being stuck in Leavisite mode” has been perceived as harsh and unkind by some members of the Text Selection Committee; nonetheless, I clearly referred to the “the authorities” not the Committee itself. You suggest that “one option for discontented individuals is to join the next panel and work to change the course for the next cycle”. You should be aware that I was a member of the Text Selection Committee for several years and that some of us tried to learn a number of times from VCAA its reason for excluding all foreign language films with subtitles. It was never explained to us – nor has VCAA ever explained it to the general cohort of English teachers. I hope that open debate around VCAA decisions will not be judged as in conflict with “the spirit of supporting rich communities” or “sharing and contributing to discussions”. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Regards,<br>Lyle<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> "Caruso, Greta" <<a href="mailto:Caruso.G@kingswoodcollege.vic.edu.au">Caruso.G@kingswoodcollege.vic.edu.au</a>><br><b>To:</b> VCE English Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:english@edulists.com.au">english@edulists.com.au</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 8 May 2013 2:46 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [English] Text list</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv8748437366><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Hi all, especially Lyle, </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>NOTE:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> We are still to hear from the text panel that was led by Marion White the Project Manager of English at VCAA regards the decision to take <i>The Reluctant Fundamentalist</i> off the list. The longer that silence continues, the greater the likelihood that people will draw inferences. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='color:black'>Now, in response to Maria Joseph:</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='color:black'>Here is what Dr Maria Joseph said in <i>The Age</i>.</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'>·</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>“Changez was not a fundamentalist before September 11 but grew to be one in response to the attacks. Like Scheherazade in <i>The Arabian Nights</i>, it is as if Changez must spin his story through the night in order to stay alive.” </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'>·</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>“Changez has slowly, if reluctantly, become a fundamentalist.”</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>“In having Changez court his own killer, Hamid has both his lovers commit a kind of suicide. In a world reduced to nostalgia, stereotypes and fundamentalism, all hope is lost.”<br><br>Read more: </span><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.theage.com.au/national/education/after-the-towers-fell-20130426-2iiqz.html#ixzz2SB4SVVMT" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#003399'>http://www.theage.com.au/national/education/after-the-towers-fell-20130426-2iiqz.html#ixzz2SB4SVVMT</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>I think that the problem is that Dr Maria Joseph does not problematise the notion of fundamentalism.</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Religious fundamentalism </span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Changez does not become a religious fundamentalist; there is no evidence for that. This is a matter of fact not interpretation. Maria Joseph might associate all Pakistanis who object to America with religious fundamentalism, but that is her issue. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The components of religious fundamentalism are </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'>·</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>right wing politics,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'>·</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>inflexible and selectively literal application of religion,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'>·</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>associations with radical, possibly terrorist actions, and</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'>·</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>determination to revive and apply some basic tenets if religious doctrine.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Of course this does not only apply to Islam, but since America (and Australia’s) “war on terror” the term “fundamentalism” has become strongly associated the Islam and almost</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>directly connotes Al Qaeda. As Lyle has noted, the text does hardly mentions the Islamic faith directly or by implication. An electronic copy of the text will render scant results when any terms associated with the faith (mosque, Kor’an, prayer, Mecca etc) are searched. Indeed, Hamid works to redefine fundamentalism, and for me that is one of the key point of the text. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Capitalist fundamentalism</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The novel directly and explicitly plays with the notion of the fundamentals of profiteering. Indeed, Underwood Samson at Changez is advised to “focus on the fundamentals”. Those fundamentals being projections of profitability: the creed of capitalism. Jim’s parting words are “I’m not a big believer in compassion in the workplace”.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The fundamentals of integrity</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Then there is Juan Bautista who has his own set of fundamentals, who in very few words, and partially through metaphor sets out a code of basic principles. This is the perspective that he takes on “I resolved to look about me with an ex-janissary’s gaze” and further, “<i>thankyou Juan Bautista …for helping me to push back the veil behind with all this had been concealed</i>”. When he leaves Chile, Changez makes clear his rejection of his life as an estimator, “All I knew was that my days of focussing on the fundamentals were done.” At a minimum, Juan Bautista asserts the value of culture in particular poetry, he provokes a rethink by Changez of his role in America and suggests that he is a renegade. The man lives his life by some uncompromising fundamental beliefs; his gentle manner bespeaks wisdom and stability. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Changez’ fundamentalism</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>In the end, Changez must work out what is fundamental for him, who he is, where he belongs, what he believes and how he will live his life. While there may be reasons to regard Changez’ claims with some degree of suspicion, he makes clear statements about his conclusions: “I made it my mission… to advocate a disengagement from your country by mine”. He goes further and suggests an active role referring to “our protests”. However, being involved in “scuffle” does not make him a fundamentalist.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Resolving that which is unresolved</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>In addition to this conflation of anti-Americanism and terrorism, Joseph also telescopes and simplifies the relationship between the American and Changez. When Joseph says that “Like Scheherazade in <i>The Arabian Nights</i>, it is as if Changez must spin his story through the night in order to stay alive” she shows that she has arrived at an interpretation that goes beyond the text. While her idea that Changez is talking to his killer is certainly feasible and even likely, Hamid leaves this clouded. There is a reason that the novel ends with the words “I trust it is from the holder of your business cards”. Indeed, that trust has certainly been undermined but Hamid still leaves an element of doubt. She goes further with her perspective and claims that “In having Changez court his own killer, Hamid has both his lovers commit a kind of suicide.” The problem here is not that she is wrong, certainly when Changez refers to himself as “Kurtz waiting for his Marlow” is hard to make any other deduction. The point is however, that it is a deduction, and nothing more. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>It would be far more accurate to forward such interpretations as possibilities which can be supported with the clues, metaphors and descriptions from the text. She states ideas that are possibilities, albeit strongly suggested, as definitive fact and thus reduces whole areas of discussion and nuance to simple fact: hardly useful for VCE teachers and students. I have struggled to have pulled my students back from the sense that they absolutely know what happened and have fought to show them the space for doubt that Hamid always leaves open. Maria Joseph’s article reduces subtlety to simplicity when I endeavour to maintain complexity. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Greta Caruso</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-color:currentColor currentColor'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> <a href="mailto:english-bounces@edulists.com.au">english-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:english-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:english-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lyle Stebbing<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 2 May 2013 10:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> VCE English Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [English] Text list</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Hi Jenny,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Thanks. I was starting to feel alone!</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Regards,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Lyle</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> "Howard, Jenni C" <<a href="mailto:howard.jenni.c@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">howard.jenni.c@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>><br><b>To:</b> VCE English Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:english@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">english@edulists.com.au</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 2 May 2013 9:26 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [English] Text list</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=yiv8748437366><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Hi Lyle,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>I have never interpreted the transition to be religious fundamentalism, rather political. Changez so rarely references religion in the text.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div id=yiv8748437366divRpF495054><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> <a href="mailto:english-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">english-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [english-bounces@edulists.com.au] on behalf of Lyle Stebbing [lylestebbing@yahoo.com.au]<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 2 May 2013 8:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> VCE English Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [English] Text list</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Hi people,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>I'm asking for some clarity here. I noticed in latest <i>The Age</i> Text Talk that the account of 'The Reluctant Fundamentalist" again states that Changez becomes a fundamentalist. A colleague of mine said that she assumed the same. However, I see no evidence for this in the book. He never states in the closing or opening pages that he's become more devout, attends the mosque more regularly, prays more often to Allah, etc. He never mentions God as part of his agenda. I believed that Hamid shows him being radicalised - but politically, not in terms of religion. I interpreted his "liberation" from American ideology to involve a left-wing opposition to US hefemony- he calls his supporters "comrades" and the protests he is involved in Pakistan are political rather than religious affirmations. He is fundamentally opposed to the USA but not in Islamist fashion at all. To judge him as such because of his beard - a symbolic defiance of Western attitudes - is surely to fall into the stereotypical thinking Hamid is challenging.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> I'm convinced, too, that the references to Chile and communist poet Pablo Neruda also suggest a poliital radicalism. In fact, it seems to me that the assumption that he's become an Islamist is based on a kind of amnesia, a forgetting that there can be a political opposition to American power and that to oppose America is not identical to being a Muslim terrorist. That binary thinking is, to me, a symptom of the way the American interpretation of all recent conflict (Huntington's "clash of civilisations") has become the prism through which all events must supposedly be viewed - and hence the attention given to the Boston bombers whoich neatly confirms this.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> I see the assumption that Changez has become an Islamist to itself be a symptom of Western stereotyping and a kind of traducing of the political force of the novel. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> What do others- especially Greta - think?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Regards,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Lyle</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> "Caruso, Greta" <<a href="mailto:Caruso.G@kingswoodcollege.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">Caruso.G@kingswoodcollege.vic.edu.au</a>><br><b>To:</b> 'VCE English Teachers' Mailing List' <<a href="mailto:english@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">english@edulists.com.au</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 28 March 2013 11:33 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> [English] Text list</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=yiv8748437366><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Hi folks, </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Past text list issues</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The Reluctant Fundamentalist</span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> was on, <i>The Reluctant Fundamentalist</i> went off, <i>The Reluctant</i> <i>Fundamentalist</i> came back on. Now we have 21 texts on the list. Curious!</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The story behind that episode has not been made public, leaving the situation open to speculation about the inclusion, removal, and replacement of a text which shows American capitalism and 9/11 at least partially from an alternate point of view. Curiouser!</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Current film text issues </span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Now, <i>The Old Man Who Read Love Stories</i> has gone off after three years. The reason Sean Box current VCAA English Manager, has given is that few people selected the text. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Some of the original decisions for the selection of <i>The Old Man Who Read Love Stories </i>might come into play here. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>My understanding is that</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>• there were concerns about the popularity of film texts such as <i>Look Both Ways</i> and <i>Gattaca</i>. Apparently, it was deemed problem (by some at least) that so many students did these film texts , that they could be seen as easy access, and that a large number of the students who did them were not highly able students. This apparently informed the decision to attempt to put on a film text that would not be a highly popular blockbuster. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>• some people had issues with film text in the English curriculum in general, and thought that film texts belong in Media rather than in English. The decision was made to put on a film text is was possibly worthy but not necessarily popular. If this is true, then an attempt to diminish the role of film in the English curriculum through text selection raises serious questions. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Many people were surprised by the selection of <i>The Old Man Who Read Love Stories</i> and dismayed that the film text seemed aimed at a very narrow cohort. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>I am really happy with <i>All About Eve</i>, and think it is a pretty good choice and my guess is that it will be popular. My problem is the process and the backstory. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Anyone who is on this list and was on Text Selection Panel chaired by the previous Manager of English, Marion White, who has any specific knowledge might like to write in and tell us more about it. </span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>The broader issue </span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The broader issue that I want to raise again is that if texts are put on the list they should be there for four years. Even if only one teacher is doing it with one class, it needs to be there for the time. This discussion needs also take into consideration that when teachers might have a text going off the list, they do not necessarily replace it with a brand new one, for instance, they may replace it with one that is in its second year, his gives even less running time. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>I know sometimes texts are put up that turn out to have very few takers ie <i>Voices and Visions</i>, but I want to support those colleagues who make brave choices and expand the way we think about the text list. So even if texts turn out to be poor choices, we need to leave them on for the four years. The only exception I can see for this is if not a single student has written on it at the end of year exam, even then I would suggest that we think twice. If teachers cannot be guaranteed the time, then why would anyone select a new form, or different style of text.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The Theme</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>All of these threads combined could be read as a reflection of VCAA making very conservative decisions</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal 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