[English] english Digest, Vol 68, Issue 15
Mary Mason
mary.mason at bigpond.com
Wed Sep 12 07:19:54 EST 2012
A suggestion. I think holistic is not good mainly because it is important
for both the teacher and the students to think about what you are looking
for in a Creating and Responding. Criteria are good here but only if the
teacher has thought about what they mean. Criteria helps The teacher grade
and helps the student because know more precisely where they have succeeded
and failed. Perhaps rubrics are too prescriptive in Creative responses but
can be useful in expository responses. Great care though must be taken in
rubrics. It is so easy to put concrete facts down. It is much more difficult
to put down the quality of the thinking and above all it is thinking which
will be assessed.
You are first of all looking at FORM- have they used a writing genre to
develop their piece. I think, particularly in creative, this can go wrong.
Students tend to just write without thinking of how to use setting,
dialogue, first person narration, etc to develop their piece. They also do
not have the metalanguage for this in their statement of intention. As an
aside I wonder how much the loss of writing folio, and Naplan persuasive has
stopped the process of teaching writing. The second thing is CONTENT. How
much has the student referred to incidents like the texts or mirrored
situations in the text and how authentic are they. I recently read some
pieces that equated what was happening in concentration camps in Germany to
what is happening to people at Christmas Island, repeating the same
starvation stories. Students if they are to use these analogies need to do a
lot of research into their chosen scenario in their creative pieces, so that
they can work out similarities and differences. The third thing is the
WRITING itself. Is a creative writing piece of the 'dark and stormy night'
cliché or does the writing sound authentic and is their detail there. Does
the writer show not tell in a creative piece? In expository or persuasive do
you feel the passion of individually constructed arguments which are
detailed? Are they backed up with reference to other issues? The fourth
thing is very difficult, particularly in expository. It is the ARGUMENT. Is
the student structuring lots of bits of text together or is there a genuine
argument about the nature of conflict which is like a spine through the
piece and which uses texts and issues to illustrate this argument. Fifthly
of course there is ACCURACY.
I think it is important to look at these things because it helps you teach.
Mary
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Oh yay - this is my first time using edulists - lovely to get responses so
quickly.
Jan - our context is Encountering Conflict
Kathy - you make me laugh (when I need to most!), thank you. Interesting
that there are other options, I didn't realise. I think I prefer the
holistic approach, I tend to fall back on that when the rubric doesn't seem
to be working for me!
:) Micaela
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3. Re: Yr12 SAC Rubrics (Jan May)
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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 23:17:50 +0000
From: "Briscoe, Micaela J" <briscoe.micaela.j at edumail.vic.gov.au>
Subject: [English] Yr12 SAC Rubrics
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Hi everyone
I'm new to teaching Year 12 and still have that lost-but-learning feeling!
One of the most daunting aspects of this year has been SAC marking. I still
feel rather confused about exactly what I'm looking for (particularly in
C&P) and was wondering whether anyone has some really strong rubrics they
could send through, for all areas of study.
Cheers
Micaela
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From: "Skidmore, Kathy L" <skidmore.kathy.l at edumail.vic.gov.au>
Subject: Re: [English] Yr12 SAC Rubrics
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Micaela,
Ahhh?.you've opened up another can of worms?.we've had constant discussions
of how best to assess Yr 12; should we use rubrics? Should we use assessment
criteria? Should we mark holistically ? as many PDs seem to advise?
We settled on assessment criteria, but they have their limitations, as they
can't possibly cover ALL the items in the holistic assessment.
What do others do?
Yes, it's a tough gig being a senior English teacher ? but it will only take
you 10 years to feel comfortable ? then the rest of your career to continue
to doubt yourself?but that's how it has to be. Personally, if I ever feel as
though I have it all worked out, it's the time when something or someone
will come along to challenge that, and make me re-think everything all over
again. I think that's healthy, though. Good on you for taking it on.
Kathy Skidmore
Wanganui Park SC, Shepparton.
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Subject: [English] Yr12 SAC Rubrics
Hi everyone
I'm new to teaching Year 12 and still have that lost-but-learning feeling!
One of the most daunting aspects of this year has been SAC marking. I still
feel rather confused about exactly what I'm looking for (particularly in
C&P) and was wondering whether anyone has some really strong rubrics they
could send through, for all areas of study.
Cheers
Micaela
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 00:13:39 +0000
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Which context are you teaching, Micaela?
Sent from my school iPad.
On 11/09/2012, at 9:20 AM, "Briscoe, Micaela J"
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ov.au>> wrote:
Hi everyone
I'm new to teaching Year 12 and still have that lost-but-learning feeling!
One of the most daunting aspects of this year has been SAC marking. I still
feel rather confused about exactly what I'm looking for (particularly in
C&P) and was wondering whether anyone has some really strong rubrics they
could send through, for all areas of study.
Cheers
Micaela
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