[English] Study Design and Expected Qualities

Sun Sep 9 20:58:24 EST 2012

Hi all,

Jan, I am sorry to hear that that is your faculty policy. You must be horribly frustrated?

I'm so glad to hear this distaste for TEEL being voiced. I have so many articulate and intelligent 18 year olds sounding like utter morons because they are trying to stick to TEEL. While the misconception that they link to the next paragraph is bad enough, I also hate the way it seems to train them to make a point, support it with one piece of evidence and then move on to their next point. So few seem to build thorough arguments or interpretations following the TEEL model.

I would like to round up the inventor of TEEL with whoever it was that started telling students that they always have to write an introduction, three body paragraphs and a conclusion, or write one paragraph per key character, and lock them in a room with an eternity's worth of mediocre Creating and Presenting essays to mark as a punishment!

What we need to be teaching students is how to read the prompt and offer a thoughtful response to it. And if I hear the phrase "but my tutor said..." one more time I will scream!

(I feel somewhat better now. Bring on Monday.)

Regards,

Jackson Bates
Waverley Christian College

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> You've encapsulated my thoughts perfectly, Mary. I didn't express myself clearly enough when I mentioned scaffolding.
> Not easy though when you have to follow fac policy of TEEL and you disagree with it. So I just agree to disagree and don't use the acronyms.
> And you are right - there's been a surge in prescriptive formulas. Leave them to mathematics.
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> On 09/09/2012, at 8:05 PM, "Mary Mason" <mary.mason at bigpond.com<mailto:mary.mason at bigpond.com>> wrote:
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> Can I say how much I agree about the difference between scaffolding and TEEL. I cannot think of anything more able to deaden a student?s voice than TEEL. That is not to say that some students need structure but to inflict this on the whole class is a recipe for disaster. Every year the examiners talk about how students should not write formulaic responses. Yet it continues. In fact, I would say that TEEL is more prescriptive now than when I started teaching. Perhaps it was called something different then.
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> From: english-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:english-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:english-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Reynolds, Gail G
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> I think there is a difference between scaffolding and formula, one is a  coathanger for the students' interpretations, the other is a prescriptive format.  There may be a (hopefully temporary) place for the former but none for the latter...
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> Well said about formulas, Gail. We don't want all our students to become 'clones'. Individual interpretation makes reading and writing about texts more engaging.
> Instead of TEEL, we need EII. Encourage Individual Interpretation.
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> I'd better add a disclaimer. These are my personal views and not necessarily those of others with whom I work. Although, I do acknowledge that some weaker students do benefit from having a clearly scaffolded task.
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> On 09/09/2012, at 1:53 PM, "Reynolds, Gail G" <reynolds.gail.g at edumail.vic.gov.au<mailto:reynolds.gail.g at edumail.vic.gov.au>> wrote:
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> Janny is absolutely right, but I'd also add that your interpretation may not be the same as my interpretation but both could be valid if properly supported through reference to the text. Students should be encouraged to develop their own 'reading' of both text and questions ... and firmly disuaded from formulaic answers like those that a rouge tutor (and bane of my teaching life)  is 'teaching' far too many of our students! (grrrrrrr!!!)
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> Back to SAC marking
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> I assume that the proposition in the topic represents an interpretation.  The range of possible topics suggests a range of possible interpretations, giving more or less weight to different aspects of the text.  I would not assume that, in a given response, the student is necessarily required to 'provide a range of interpretations' but to show the ability to discuss a specific claim about a text.  These ideas are picked up again in the specifications to Section A of the exam in the material that prefaces the 2009 sample exam- the famous four dot points. .
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> People may remember my discussion on Expected Qualities a while back. Well looking at the current study design I wonder why a key element in the flagship statement:
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> ?On completion of this unit the student should be able to analyse, either orally or in writing, how a selected
> text constructs meaning, conveys ideas and values, and is open to a range of interpretations.? (My italics.)
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> Is not being represented in the Expected qualities at all? Namely, question of students providing a range of interpretations.
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> The idea of interpretation being a key element in the course is mentioned again in the skills list:
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> ? discuss and compare possible interpretations of texts using evidence from the text;
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> Any thoughts?
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> (extract from current study design below)
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> Reading and responding
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> This area of study focuses on the reading of a range of literary texts to develop critical and supported
> responses.
> Students examine the structures, features and conventions used by authors of a range of selected texts
> to construct meaning They identify, discuss and analyse these in order to explain how meaning is
> constructed through textual elements such as language and images. They also examine the ways in
> which the same text is open to different interpretations by different readers; for example, the ways in
> which a text can be read differently in a different time, place or culture. They describe and analyse
> the way in which social, historical and/or cultural values are embodied in texts, and develop oral and
> written responses to a selected text, using appropriate metalanguage. The term ?selected text? refers to a
> text chosen from the list of prescribed texts in Text List 1 published annually in the VCAA Bulletin.
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> Outcome 1
> On completion of this unit the student should be able to analyse, either orally or in writing, how a selected
> text constructs meaning, conveys ideas and values, and is open to a range of interpretations.
> To achieve this outcome the student will draw on knowledge and related skills outlined in area of
> study 1.
> Key knowledge
> This knowledge includes
> ? an understanding of the ideas, characters and themes constructed by the author and presented in
> the selected text;
> ? the structures, features and conventions used by authors to construct meaning in a range of literary
> texts;
> ? methods of analysing complex texts and the social, historical and/or cultural values embodied in
> texts;
> ? the ways in which the same text is open to different interpretations by different readers;
> ? strategies and techniques for constructing a supported analysis of a text, including a knowledge of
> the metalanguage appropriate to the analysis and to the text type;
> ? key elements of oral language conventions and usage in a range of text types;
> ? features of spoken texts which successfully engage audiences;
> ? techniques for managing feedback and leading discussion;
> ? the conventions of spelling, punctuation and syntax of Standard Australian English.
> Key skills
> These skills include the ability to
> ? critically analyse texts and the ways in which authors construct meaning;
> ? analyse the social, historical and/or cultural values embodied in texts;
> ? discuss and compare possible interpretations of texts using evidence from the text;
> ? use appropriate metalanguage to construct a supported analysis of a text;
> ? plan and revise written work for fluency and coherence;
> ? apply oral language conventions in a chosen oral text type;
> ? engage an audience through interested and varied language use;
> ? respond to audience interest and engagement;
> ? use the conventions of spelling, punctuation and syntax of Standard Australian English.
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