[English] expected qualities

Tue Jul 10 11:13:12 EST 2012

Hello Julie and thanks for your response...

I don’t have an issue with the key words you identify... though I have a nagging feeling that the phrase “ from the basis of the text” is redundant. I mean the exam topic itself invariably refers to the text.  Unless it’s referring to something else, I don’t understand why it’s there.  Also your point about “understanding the text in the wider world”... isn't this a C&P feature rather than a R&R one? My understanding of an R&R response is that it deals with the world of the text, not real world elements...
I also wonder what is meant by “an appropriate strategy for dealing with it” ... ie the topic; and why marks below 8 don’t need a strategy, appropriate or otherwise. From your point of view what would such an appropriate strategy be?  Perhaps others also have thoughts on this?

Thanks again,

Russell

From: Julie 
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 8:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [English] expected qualities

Hi Russell,

The key words in this description, for me, are: 'implications', 'exploring' and 'complexity'.  The thinking associated with these words is quite sophisticated.  While we hope that all students respond 'from the basis of the text' it is usually clear that the best responses take the ideas so much further. The basic response 'describes' the ideas in the topic while the best response moves way beyond this and understands the text in the wider world.  

It is hard to explain but when you see the difference in student responses the difference is more obvious.

Regards, 
Julie Squires

On 09/07/2012, at 12:42 PM, <rdf4 at bigpond.com> wrote:

  Hi 

  I’m looking at the 2011 Expected Qualities (Reading and Responding) for exam markers and wonder what people understand by the term... “Demonstrates an understanding of the implications of the topic...exploring its complexity from the basis of the text.”  I note that this expected quality is only referred to in the 8-10 mark range.  One would like to think that most students would use the text as the basis for their response; or am I missing the point...?

  http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/english/2008eng-crit-descriptors.pdf

  Russell

  From: Lorraine Paul 
  Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 7:58 PM
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  Thanks Mary. I teach in an independent school. It's nice when you have forums like this. All the best!
  Lorraine 

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  From: mary.mason at bigpond.com
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  Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 09:21:46 +1000
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  Lorraine - I’m sorry. You need to have an edumail address to access the site. You can be a crt teacher or an employee in a state school.

  Mary

  From: english-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:english-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Lorraine Paul
  Sent: Saturday, 7 July 2012 11:15 PM
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  Hello Mary,

  Is this open only to  State School Teachers ?
  Lorraine 

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  Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 12:58:49 +1000
  From: mcclenaghan.douglas.j at edumail.vic.gov.au
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  Subject: Re: [English] VCE English Teachers and Coordinators

  Hello Mary

  Yes, I am certainly interested in this. Sign me up.

  Yours

  Douglas McClenaghan

  >>> Mary Mason<mary.mason at bigpond.com> 7/06/2012 11:13 AM >>>

  Dear VCE teachers

  I am working with a group for the Department of Education on designing course materials for Years 11 and 12 VCE English for State School Teachers. We are also working on a site on! the Ultranet for teachers new to VCE English. This site will provide excellent materials for teachers; provide opportunities for them to ask questions of experienced VCE teachers; participate in a forum with other teachers; and opportunities to access virtual discussions/lectures on aspects of the course. We are also hopeful that there could be a forum on it for collaborative research for VIT projects. We would like to have about 30 teachers from state schools ,who are presently teaching  VCE, who would be willing to trial and help us to build the site so it will be helpful for teachers. Participation  will count towards professional development time and will, I think, be most interesting. If you are a CRT teacher you are welcome to join as well. I know it is diffi! cult sometimes for you to pick up professional development hours. Please contact me directly on my email: mary.mason at bigpond.com if you are able to participate. The trial will be  in Term 3 and will  involve you loggi! ng into the site, participating in some of the forums, and feeding back to us your comments.

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