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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi John,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">All ours was live and direct so no recordings sorry!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Brett Groves<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="http://melba.vic.edu.au/curriculum/elearning/">eLearning Resources for Educators</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> elearning-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:elearning-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Helmy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 8 September 2014 9:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> elearning Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [elearning] eLearning List<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:black">Thanks for the great advice Brett, Jamie and Roland. I'm trying to weigh up my options now.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.5pt;color:black">The iTunes radio seems like less hassle to setup and will be more realistic if we don't have an old server. However, I think you need iTunes to listen to their radio, which is a small barrier and
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.5pt;color:black">The quality of the streams in the Icecast directory seem pretty awesome to me. If you have a dedicated server with Icecast in the school it should run quickly within it and put less load on the
network too. Brett which application did you use to transmit your recordings to the server. I thought iCast Pro looked interesting for recording material from you iPhone!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.5pt;color:black">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.5pt;color:black">John<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">On Monday, 8 September 2014, 14:02, "Groves, Brett G" <<a href="mailto:groves.brett.g@edumail.vic.gov.au">groves.brett.g@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Hi John,</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">You can set up an Icecast server very easily, see here
<a href="http://www">http://www</a>. icecast.org/</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">.
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">It’s all open source and runs on any modest native box, basically you old dunger you were throwing out will run it. Students can listen via VLC by specifying a network stream
or you can create a page for the stream and run it off a webserver. There is a mountain of free support material around for it.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">The music will be much more problematic than the technical aspects of the set up. If you limit the stream to inside your network, ie
keep the icecast server inside the DMZ with no external IP then you could probably use the schools copyright assignment agreement to cover you. In Victoria for example the state government contributes to a scheme that reimburses producers for notional re use
of their work in certain circumstances. For example recording and re broadcasting free to air TV within the organisation for the purposes of education. Might be worth investigating if such an agreement exists in China and whether your school is part of a larger
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">If you intend to broadcast externally you’ll need to contact the Chinese equivalent of APRA to work out royalty fees, they may have
a blanket cover fee based on your expected audience and content or you may perhaps need to pay per broadcast. You’ll need to investigate.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Hope that helps a bit.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:elearning-bounces@edulists.com.au">elearning-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:elearning-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:elearning-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Helmy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 7 September 2014 9:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> elearning Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [elearning] eLearning List</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Apologies for the multiple posts I thought they weren't going through the list, because I think in the past I received a copy back
through the list! Podcasting through iTunes sounds like a great option. I am working at a start up school in China there may be issues with setting up a HAM radio station here. </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">It sounds like you need a license for playing music
<a href="http://www.ppluk.com/en/I-Play-Music/Radio-Broadcasting/Radio-types/Online-radio-and-services/" target="_blank">
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be able to broadcast live and repeatedly reshare these shows on a schedule. From memory, there is a copyright problem, even if only a few seconds music is played in the background. We have to be vigilant with our ACCELN hangout if this happens or we get an
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