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<div>Great information Jarrod,</div>
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<div>Having a vague idea of the huge amount of work you do on both (the many?) platforms, your application of IT in general to your classes and your willingness to share your knowledge and expertise with the rest of the community, I value the comments that
you (and others) have brought to this thread. Like many other schools, we are currently grappling with the BYOD issue and this thread has given me much food for thought and further areas to investigate as we continue our discussions about how, what and when
to implement. The comments both for and against are great preparation for me in these discussions.</div>
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<div>Thanks to you and others who contribute so much to this list</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>"Robinson, Jarrod J" <<a href="mailto:robinson.jarrod.j@edumail.vic.gov.au">robinson.jarrod.j@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>><br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:53:03 +0000<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>elearning Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:elearning@edulists.com.au">elearning@edulists.com.au</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [elearning] TeachMeet in a Pub - Sat 2 Feb 2013<br>
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<div>I'm saying this as a fan if both OS. There is a reason android hasn't quite made an entrance into education as yet. They seriously need a nexus device, one that can be targeted at education. The current nexus tab, is close but still limited by lack of
supporting hardware etc. More below..</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1- most versions of the android software don't allow enterprise wireless connection. This rules out connecting to edustar wireless in most cases<span style="color:#1F497D">.
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The problem with this is that updating android devices is still a tremendously slow process. I'm awaiting software updates on my android phones/tablets Ultimately only the latest tablets are running the latest os <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2- the openness of the android system leads to security issues. Fraudulent apps and data mining is rife in the android world with educational apps targeting kids and farming data<span style="color:#1F497D">.
</span><span style="color:red">Heavens....hadn’t heard that threat before of any OS</span></p>
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You would have to be kidding me. Android OS is rife with security woes. Bringing this open system into a school presents issues. Is apples closed system better? Hmm well yes and no<br>
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Again you would have to be kidding me. Segmentation is a joke. It is a complete nightmare to code for. Point being less development into applications. Who wants to code for over 1400 device configs. My latest android app had to target this many apps. Development
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Yes. The ones worth testing that is. Up until ice cream sandwhich there was nothing worth the purchase. I now have a total of 6 android devices. Each of which I really like to varying levels. None of them until jellybean had fluid control nice enough to warrant
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<div>Community us hie we cut through the crap and look at best practice. Jump on twitter and see for yourself. </div>
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I'm Intrigued by what the future holds for these. Surface is superb and I'm looking to begin done development work on them<br>
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On Dec 17, 2012, at 1:38 PM, "Taylor, Charmaine C" <<a href="mailto:taylor.charmaine.c@edumail.vic.gov.au">taylor.charmaine.c@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Does anyone use Samsung Tablets as 24/7 1:1 computing devices for their students? We have netbooks for most year levels but the apparent loss of
NSSCF funding means we can’t afford to provide netbooks for all levels next year. I was wondering if we might use tablets.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Roland Gesthuizen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 13 December 2012 6:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List; eLearning mailing list<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Celia Coffa<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [elearning] TeachMeet in a Pub - Sat 2 Feb 2013</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">G'day fellow ICT educators<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am hosting the next Teachmeet in a Pub. (now that made you sit up and pay attention) Yes, a #Melbourne pub! You don't have to drink, you can stand around eating peanuts and drinking water if you like. Otherwise, join me to raise a toast
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you are wondering what is a TeachMeet, well you have to come to find out. They are informal, fun, very informative and a growing movement.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As it is early 2013, it is a good idea to stick the date in your diary. To register interest or offer to run a 2 min talk on a soap box, just add your details to the honour role.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="http://teachmeetmelbourne.wikispaces.com/2013+-+Feb+2">http://teachmeetmelbourne.wikispaces.com/2013+-+Feb+2</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Love to have you on board or to answer any burning questions you may have. My shout :-)<o:p></o:p></p>
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Keysborough College DEECD<br>
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"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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