<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">just as an aside<div>i find it easy to use touch typing on ipad when it is in landscape mode - in portrait mode my fingers are just too fat!</div><div><br></div><div>I asked my year 12 class and my unit 2 classes about iPads in vce</div><div><br></div><div>vast majority were in favour of BYOD - a few queried the problems for people who could not afford a D -- general consensus was hang on to their iPad from 7-10 or 7-9</div><div><br></div><div>They all felt that iPads were good for 7-9 (even though they had not had them in 7-9) but preferred a machine with more grunt in 11 & 12 ...!!</div><div><br></div><div>Most want eBooks but a few prefer the concept of using dead trees not electronic.</div><div><br></div><div>Andrew</div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true">
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<br><div><div>On 07/09/2012, at 11:11 AM, Antoinette Siarabalos <<a href="mailto:asiara@bigpond.com">asiara@bigpond.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">This is a very timely discussion now happing at my school, Emmaus college. So I appreciate everyone's thoughts here and agree with the advantages of having such a mobile device in 7-9. However, there are challenges with creation of many tasks with the iPad. I don't like the 2 finger typing situation on iPad when I am a touch typist. Let's face it there are still tasks that are better suited to laptops or desktops. So I guess my question is if schools are now going in the direction of iPads , what planning is there for high end creation tasks? Upgrading labs, laptop trolleys? <br>Granted they may not be used as often but they will still be needed. This comment is obviously not directed to schools that have laptop programs in place.<br>Also of you had written a strategic plan for ict 2 years, my guess is, it would now be obsolete.<br>Interesting times ahead for all in this never ending changing landscape.<br>Regards,<br>Antoinette<br><br><br>Thank you<br>Antoinette Siarabalos<br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br>On 06/09/2012, at 5:23 PM, Roland Gesthuizen <<a href="mailto:rgesthuizen@gmail.com">rgesthuizen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">I recall Richard Olson during an Edtech Crew podcast noted that we<br>need to be keenly aware that student needs will eventually shift<br>towards more powerful devices. My thinking was that by VCE some would<br>eventually decide to use more powerful laptops. Each could pick what<br>would best suits their study, needs or budget .. or perhaps to not<br>pick one. I can imagine that many could still rely on their old junior<br>school iPad (or smart phone) for mLearning, personal organisation and<br>reading etc. I like how this NZ school is handling it. There are<br>others I can dig up and share if you like.<br> <a href="http://www.kristin.school.nz/web/portal/ict-services/digital-learning-programmes">http://www.kristin.school.nz/web/portal/ict-services/digital-learning-programmes</a><br><br>If we accept that different streams of students at the senior levels<br>will have different needs, we should not try to resolve this with a<br>single package to fix and accept that in the following year, we should<br>have prepared them for the digital citizenship and independence of<br>learning and working whilst away from a single corporate network.<br>Maybe the iPads presents us with the right timing and opportunity to<br>finally allow students to manage their devices and develop their<br>skills as independent and responsible learners if they eventually step<br>up to their own powerful device.<br> <a href="http://ipadeducators.ning.com/profiles/blogs/device-control">http://ipadeducators.ning.com/profiles/blogs/device-control</a><br><br>Regards Roland<br><br>On 5 September 2012 22:47, Kevork Krozian <<a href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au">kevork@edulists.com.au</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Hi Folks,<br><br>A typo below. Unanimous choice for learning, studying and interacting by<br>the Yr 12s was the laptop/MacBook. None favoured the iPad.<br><br><br>Kevork Krozian<br>Edulists Creator Administrator<br><a href="http://www.edulists.com.au">www.edulists.com.au</a><br>tel: 0419 356 034<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: elearning-bounces@edulists.com.au<br>[mailto:elearning-bounces@edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian<br></blockquote></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br><a href="http://www.edulists.com.au">http://www.edulists.com.au</a> - FAQ, resources, subscribe, unsubscribe<br>eLearning Mailing List kindly supported by<br><a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au</a> - Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority and<br><a href="http://www.vitta.org.au">http://www.vitta.org.au</a> - VITTA Victorian Information Technology Teachers Association Inc<br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>