[elearning] Query on iPad research

Fri Sep 7 13:22:59 EST 2012

Lots of interesting thoughts here, for me the thought of tablets from 7-10 and laptops for VCE work is better.
I wonder if an amalgam of BYOD and School Specified can be the best of both worlds. So for example at year 7-10 students get to use an iPad at 11-12 students are to choose between one of 3 devices Tablet, Laptop(PC or Mac)

I have been watching the Windows 8 Tablet discussion and am impressed with the offering from Microsoft.
I think of bigger issue then the device is teaching staff to be multilingual platform agnostic.

If we go to a BYOD plan how do we know that every student will use the same application to create a movie or annotated visual display.
Will staff be expected to teach students the apps first then the content.
Or should staff ask students to develop a task and use whatever tool that the student is comfortable with.

Sometimes I think application lists whilst allowing for a level playing field remove that creativity and problem solving skill from our students.

On a side note
We are experimenting with Citrix and windows server 2012 cloud solutions at the moment to see which will extend the current functionality of our 1:1 ipad program, specifically we are looking for the Upload to website feature without the need to WebDAV.
Windows 2012 has advertised that it will integrate Dropbox and SkyDrive into its system and any student drives can be synced with their Dropbox or SkyDrive accounts.
Then using the ipad to control that cloud instance the upload would occur through the browser instance chosen.
These cloud solutions also give students access to older flash based websites as we wait for HTML5 to be integrated into the sites.

Any way these are my Random Thoughts as we approach the weekend.
Andrew

Andrew Weir
Head Of Learning eLearning
Thomas Carr College

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Andrew, I think another option is one that allows students to Bring or Borrow… so if they can’t afford an appropriate device to do the job the school should have a bank which can be borrowed for longer terms. That way they are not missing the opportunities for developing skills with a range of devices which will always be useful in the workforce. With the majority of students bringing their own, you would hope the capital outlay is not prohibitive
Suz

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Oddly enough I can touch type on an iPad, the autocorrect seems to fix up most of my errors (And inserts a few howlers) It took me a while to learn to train my fingers to not wander. By contrast I use the text dictation of Dragon or Siri to record larger slabs of text by just talking to my device. Have done both here using just these tools, perhaps to prove a point ;-)

Of course I can do better with a desktop, or laptop, but not dressed in full Medieval costume in a corner of our fair learning-centre castle or outside testing trebuchet models we built in science (as I am)

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On 07/09/2012, at 11:17 AM, Andrew Shortell <shortell at get2me.net<mailto:shortell at get2me.net>> wrote:
just as an aside
i find it easy to use touch typing on ipad when it is in landscape mode - in portrait mode my fingers are just too fat!

I asked my year 12 class and my unit 2  classes about iPads in vce

vast majority were in favour of BYOD - a few queried the problems for people who could not afford a D -- general consensus was hang on to their iPad from 7-10 or 7-9

They all felt that iPads were good for 7-9 (even though they had not had them in 7-9) but preferred a machine with more grunt in 11 & 12 ...!!

Most want eBooks but a few prefer the concept of using dead trees not electronic.

Andrew

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On 07/09/2012, at 11:11 AM, Antoinette Siarabalos <asiara at bigpond.com<mailto:asiara at bigpond.com>> wrote:

This is a very timely discussion now happing at my school, Emmaus college. So I appreciate everyone's thoughts here and agree with the advantages of having such a mobile device in 7-9. However, there are challenges with creation of many tasks with the iPad. I don't like the 2 finger typing situation on iPad when I am a touch typist. Let's face it there are still tasks that are better suited to laptops or desktops. So I guess my question is if schools are now going in the direction of iPads , what planning is there for high end creation tasks? Upgrading labs, laptop trolleys?
Granted they may not be used as often but they will still be needed. This comment is obviously not directed to schools that have laptop programs in place.
Also of you had written a strategic plan for ict 2 years, my guess is, it would now be obsolete.
Interesting times ahead for all in this never ending changing landscape.
Regards,
Antoinette

Thank you
Antoinette Siarabalos
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On 06/09/2012, at 5:23 PM, Roland Gesthuizen <rgesthuizen at gmail.com<mailto:rgesthuizen at gmail.com>> wrote:

I recall Richard Olson during an Edtech Crew podcast noted that we
need to be keenly aware that student needs will eventually shift
towards more powerful devices. My thinking was that by VCE some would
eventually decide to use more powerful laptops. Each could pick what
would best suits their study, needs or budget .. or perhaps to not
pick one. I can imagine that many could still rely on their old junior
school iPad (or smart phone) for mLearning, personal organisation and
reading etc. I like how this NZ school is handling it. There are
others I can dig up and share if you like.
   http://www.kristin.school.nz/web/portal/ict-services/digital-learning-programmes

If we accept that different streams of students at the senior levels
will have different needs, we should not try to resolve this with a
single package to fix and accept that in the following year, we should
have prepared them for the digital citizenship and independence of
learning and working whilst away from a single corporate network.
Maybe the iPads presents us with the right timing and opportunity to
finally allow students to manage their devices and develop their
skills as independent and responsible learners if they eventually step
up to their own powerful device.
   http://ipadeducators.ning.com/profiles/blogs/device-control

Regards Roland

On 5 September 2012 22:47, Kevork Krozian <kevork at edulists.com.au<mailto:kevork at edulists.com.au>> wrote:
Hi Folks,

A typo below. Unanimous choice for learning, studying and interacting by
the Yr 12s was the laptop/MacBook. None favoured the iPad.

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