[CS4HS] Proposal for a 5/6 study

Raymond Nashar raynashar at me.com
Sat Dec 3 12:41:45 EST 2011


Hi all

I'd like to see app development that's specific to their context. I'd also like to see students connecting with external coding communities on discussions and perhaps even on open source projects. And what do you think about online examinations that are built to examine more organic higher order thinking processes like computational or creative thinking and problem solving? If a paper based exam is a must, then that could be a part of the examination. The VET Interactive Digital Media course involves online examinations.

I'm going to have to ask a stupid question here - is a precedent to a Unit 5/6 study? Nathaniel mentioned a 5/6 physics? I may be alone here but I suspect that most teachers would not have heard of it.

So I guess I'm asking if units 5/6 would make it seem so elite that it won't become mainstream? For example, most students shy away from Specialist Math or English Literature because of the perception that those are 'elite versions' of traditional math and English. However, they are still units 3/4.

Do we have teachers capable of delivering 5/6 Computer Science?

Raymond Nashar
eLearning Coordinator
Mount Saint Joseph Girls' College
ICTEV State Councillor
 Distinguished Educators Advisory Board
@raynashar

On 03/12/2011, at 9:20 AM, Nathanial Bradshaw <n.bradshaw at cccc.vic.edu.au> wrote:

> I think given that it is supposed to be advanced it would be good to teach:
> 
> Data structures and algorithms
> Object Oriented Programming
> 
> Nathaniel Bradshaw
> International Exchange Coordinator, Teacher of Information Technology and Mathematics
> Committee Member of The Victorian IT Teachers Association
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cs4hs-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:cs4hs-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Christophersen, Paula P
> Sent: Friday, 2 December 2011 11:10 AM
> To: Computer Science for High Schools Online Community
> Subject: Re: [CS4HS] Proposal for a 5/6 study
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> A 5/6 sequence is one that can be offered both at school and at university. It has a rigour that is equivalent to first year university. This justifies why students who do the subject during their VCE can get credit towards a degree at the universities offering the subject. The subject must be distinct from what is offered within the VCE and from other first year university subjects. 
> 
> There would be no prerequisite, however, a 'buyer beware' statement can be made within the VCE documentation to advise that knowledge of certain content etc is recommended but not mandated. This is the same as Specialist Maths in the VCE.
> 
> As Steven has invited, any ideas for possible content would be appreciated.
> 
> Regards
> Paula
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> Paula Christophersen
> ICT Curriculum Manager
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cs4hs-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:cs4hs-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Nathanial Bradshaw
> Sent: Friday, 2 December 2011 8:38 AM
> To: Computer Science for High Schools Online Community
> Subject: Re: [CS4HS] Proposal for a 5/6 study
> 
> I think it's a great idea though I have a few questions:
> 
> 1. Will it be taught in schools be teachers (like 5/6 Physics)?
> 2. Will SD or ITA 3/4 be a prerequisite?
> 
> 
> Nathaniel Bradshaw
> International Exchange Coordinator, Teacher of Information Technology and Mathematics Committee Member of The Victorian IT Teachers Association
> 
> Caroline Chisholm Catholic College
> 204 Churchill Avenue, Braybrook. 3019
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cs4hs-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:cs4hs-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Steven Bird
> Sent: Friday, 2 December 2011 8:29 AM
> To: cs4hs at edulists.com.au
> Subject: Re: [CS4HS] Proposal for a 5/6 study
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> I'm keen to hear what people think of the idea for a VCE 5/6 study as the vehicle for making first year university computing content available at VCE level.  Thanks,  -Steven _______________________________________________
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